Posted on 04/21/2005 5:23:17 PM PDT by wagglebee
John Kerry -- who, as I recall, served in Vietnam, and in his life ran for president -- yesterday "yesterday attacked Republicans for having an 'orthodoxy of view' and overly inserting religion into politics, accusing them of using God as a justification for appointing conservative judges." Now, I have sat here and I have said until I'm blue in the face that the Democrats are doing everything they can to keep people of faith off the bench. They don't want religious people as judges. They just don't, and you know why: Because they're afraid of them. They're afraid of their morality; they're afraid of their views; they're afraid that they're going to strictly interpret the Constitution, and it's about abortion -- which, of course, is the thing that has united the Democrats when everything else about them is falling apart. So here's more proof. I mean, don't tell me that these guys in the Senate, these Democrats, are not filibustering these judges because of their religion. Don't tell me that, because I know that they are. They're filibustering their views on religion! They're not saying that, but it's religion that scares them. These people make no secret of their faith, and the Democrats are scared to death of that and they come up with all this other stuff to justify opposing them. "Well, they're extreme, they're against human rights." They've got all this rotgut stupidity. Some of these people are already on the district court. They've been confirmed already, some of them have, and yet the same guys that confirmed them in the past, "They're too extreme! They voted against (grumbling)," blah, blah, blah.
It's all hocus-pocus, folks. It's simply because they don't like that they're people of faith, and good old bumbling John Kerry now proves it. (Kerry impression) "I'm tiiiiiiired of the orthodoxy view. I'm sick and tiiiiiiired of a bunch of people trying to tell meee that God wants a bunch of conseeeeeervative judges on the court and that's why we have to change the ruuuules of the Senate." So John Kerry's out there saying: "Don't tell me what God wants," and I thought -- now, I could be wrong -- didn't we hear during the campaign that Senator Kerry was a good Catholic? We did, didn't we? Didn't Senator Kerry say so? He made a big deal out of the fact he was Catholic. He's made a big deal about the fact he would take the Bible in the Oval Office with him, made a big deal about the fact that he would govern according to his religion and views of religion and he would not discard those. It was one of these blatantly phony transparent efforts to get to people in the red states. Everybody knew it was smoke and mirrors but he still said it. But apparently he can say it, and nobody else can. So he's out there saying, "I'm sick and tired of a bunch of people trying to tell me that God wants a bunch of conservative judges on the court and that's why we have to change the rules of the Senate." Who's saying that anyway? Who is saying that God wants a bunch of conservative judges on the court? (Doing Kerry impression) "I am sick and tired of (them saying) they somehow have a better understanding of Christianity, of the Judeo-Christian ethic, of values. We're talking about values? You show me where in the New Testament Jesus ever talked about the value of having taxes and taking money from poor people to give to the rich people in this country."
Hey, senator, would you please find for me in your Bible, Old Testament, New Testament, where abortion is permitted and advocated? That's your religion. If Catholicism is not good enough for you and if you don't want to hear anything of that, would you please open your Bible and show me where it is written that all of these cultural things you want are permitted? You know, the Bible is not the Constitution. If you're a liberal you can take the Constitution, you can bend it, you can shape it, you can flake it, form it, do whatever you want to have it evolve and live and breathe. You can't do that with the Bible. So you guys want to start asking us, "What's in the Bible?" We're going to throw it right back at you and you show us where what the hell you believe, the absolute depravity that you stand for, you tell us where that's in your Bible. You're going to start asking us, "The Bible does this and Bible says this about rich versus poor," and you don't even translate that correctly. Tell us where the Bible supports anything you're doing, anything. You know, I have to tell you. The Democrats all love to say that they're all for the little guy, right? They love saying they're for the working man, right? Democrats are for the working man, right? Well, Tom DeLay was a working man, and he was a pest exterminator. He exterminated bugs. So they're out there making fun of DeLay because he was a bug man. They call him the bug man. He got rid of cockroaches and ants and they have those things down in Texas. It's a big business. Bill Richardson -- who I like, who I like a lot -- but when he was running for election out there in New Mexico, he was running against a candidate who at one time had been a flight steward, and one of his campaign lines was "While I was out there cutting taxes and balancing budgets, my opponent was serving orange juice at 30,000 feet."
Okay, good line, but I thought that Democrats were the party of the working man. I thought they were the party of the little guy. They end up impugning and making fun of the little guy as often as they can and then they try to throw the Bible as conservatives and Christians saying, "Well, I'm tired of what you tell us is in the Bible. You show me where in the New Testament Jesus ever talked about the value of having taxes and taking money from poor people to give to the rich people in this country." Senator, you ought to be real careful about this because if it weren't for your marriage you wouldn't have diddly-squat, sir. Can we just be honest? You talk about taking money from people, you wouldn't have a dime if you weren't taking it from somebody. But the rich in this country do not get rich by taking it from the poor. By definition, the poor don't have anything, either, like you wouldn't. How in the world, could somebody give me the math on this, how in the world can you have rich people get rich? And how many rich Democrats are there along with you in the Senate, sir? Did they all go out and plunder the poor as well? Did they go out and steal everything from the poor and that's how they got rich? Herb Kohl, Wisconsin, owns the Milwaukee Bucks. Did some poor person used to own that? The most the poor would have had access to of the Milwaukee Bucks is the trash dumpster outside the arena. This is just poppycock. I'll tell you folks, can I tell you what's so frustrating? These people are imploding. These people are out saying the stupidest things, like Kerry just said. They ought to be being buried. The Republicans in the Senate and everywhere else ought to be burying these people, they've given us the shovel, the Democrats have dug their own grave, all we gotta do is pour the dirt on them. And here we're worried about what Pinch Sulzberger is going to say in the irrelevant New York Times. I've about had it again. I'm getting worked up over this. It makes absolutely zero sense. And this guy wants to start telling us his interpretation of the Bible on rich people versus poor people; I want him to produce for me anywhere in the Bible any of the depravity he supports and say that's where he gets his license to support it, because he can't, folks.
What sKerry should be more worried about than anything is the Arkansas Mafia showing up and informing him in a not so gentle way that his presence is no longer necessary.
What do you mean Kerry is confused about religion? Does this sound like someone that is confused about religion? From American Windsurfer magazine's interview with J. Forbes Kerry:
Spirituality is a fundamental for us. I mean, it's the-it is the overpowering, driving foundation of most of the struggles that we go through here on earth, in my judgement. I am a believer in the Supreme Being, in God. I believe, without any question in this force that is so much larger and more powerful than anything human beings can conceivably define.
I think the more we learn about the universe, the more we learn about black holes and the expansion of the universe and the more we learn what we don't know about: our beginnings and-not just of us, but the universe itself, the more I find that people believe in this supreme being. I'm a Catholic and I practice but at the same time I have an open-mindedness to many other expressions of spirituality that come through different religions. I'm very respectful and am interested-I find it intriguing.
I went to Jerusalem a number of years ago on an official journey to Israel and I was absolutely fascinated by the 32 or so different branches of Catholicism that were there. That's before you even get to the conflict between Arabs and Jews. I have spent a lot of time since then trying to understand these fundamental differences between religions in order to really better understand the politics that grow out of them. So much of the conflict on the face of this planet is rooted in religions and the belief systems they give rise to. The fundamentalism of one entity or another.
So I really wanted to try to learn more. I've spent some time reading and thinking about it and trying to study it and I've arrived at not so much a sense of the differences but a sense of the similarities in so many ways; the value system roots and the linkages between the Torah, the Koran and the Bible and the fundamental story that runs through all of this, that connects us-and really connects all of us.
And so I've also always been fascinated by the Transcendentalists and the Pantheists and others who found these great connections just in nature, in trees, the ponds, the ripples of the wind on the pond, the great feast of nature itself. I think it's all an expression that grows out of this profound respect people have for those forces that human beings struggle to define and to explain. It's all a matter of spirituality.
I find that even - even atheists and agnostics wind up with some kind of spirituality, maybe begrudgingly acknowledging it here and there, but it's there. I think it's really intriguing. For instance, thinking about China, the people and their policy-how do we respond to their view of us? And how do they arrive at that view of us and of the world and of life choices? I think we have to think about those things in the context of the spiritual to completely understand where they are coming from. So here are a people who, you know, by and large, have a nation that has no theory of creationism. Well, that has to effect how you approach things. And until we think through how that might effect how you approach things, it's hard to figure out where you could find a meeting of the minds when approaching certain kinds of issues.
So, the exploration of all these things I find intriguing. Notwithstanding our separation between church and state, it is an essential ingredient of trying to piece together an approach to some of the great vexing questions we have internationally.
HAHA John!
PS: We are still waiting for you to sign form 180 and release your full military records!
2 Thessalonians 3
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
Kerry and the libs love to talk about how Jesus said we should feed the hungry and help the needy, and they say that that is prima facie evidence that Federal welfare programs are in line with Christian teachings.
It's funny. Christ told me to "render unto Caesar" what is due to Caesar--in other words, I should pay my taxes and be a good citizen. But throughout the scriptures, when Christ tells me to help the needy, He tells ME to help the needy. He doesn't say, "Give your money to Caesar, and Caesar will feed the hungry."
I wonder why? I also wonder why the Democrats never explain why the Bible doesn't mention putting Caesar (the government) in as the middleman for my charitable giving?
How do the Lib 'Rats break down on theological lines? Are Bush's appointees of a particular denomination? I'd love to see a comparison just to find out if there is some old fahioned religious bigotry going on between all of the political-speak.
Good questions. I only know that Bill Pryor (one of Bush's nominees) is Catholic. I would imagine some of them are Protestants, too.
The Senate libs all worship at the altar of Secular Humanism. They are religious in name only.
I think to keep it simple is the reason why the lefties fear religion is becauses it takes away their power and influence. I mean there is such a thing as God, a Higher Power if you will, that is above even government, the bureaucrats and the nanny goats on the left that want to tell us how to live. A thing to watch out for is the ones on the left who want to mold religion to their views in order to legitimatize them as we see with feminism, homosexual marriage and so on. So to the left, religion is a power to be torn down, ignored or even molded if need be That's it in a nutshell.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Thanks for the info. God help us if Kerry had made president. His "spirituality" doesn't know the difference between Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Transcendentalists, New Age Pantheism, and Atheist China. He thinks they are all basically the same "spirituality."
We really dodged a bullet by him not getting in there.
Having said that I love the way Rush writes. He is a true 100% red-blooded American
I haven't been Catholic for 25 years, but I don't mind the Popeapalooza coverage one bit.
Here's an honest answer. I agree with you 100%. My goodness, for a while there I thought FR was a catholic website. Overrun with it. Need we remind the catholics that a large part of the FR faithful are Protestants.
I'm pretty sure they know that. I hardly think it unusual that there is an increase in the number of Catholic threads. I mean, the head of a worldwide church with over 1 billion members dies, and a new one is selected. That doesn't happen every day.
It will subside. It's nothing to be concerned about.
Rush Limbaugh is a national treasure.
Good point.
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