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To: wagglebee

What do you mean Kerry is confused about religion? Does this sound like someone that is confused about religion? From American Windsurfer magazine's interview with J. Forbes Kerry:


Spirituality is a fundamental for us. I mean, it's the-it is the overpowering, driving foundation of most of the struggles that we go through here on earth, in my judgement. I am a believer in the Supreme Being, in God. I believe, without any question in this force that is so much larger and more powerful than anything human beings can conceivably define.

I think the more we learn about the universe, the more we learn about black holes and the expansion of the universe and the more we learn what we don't know about: our beginnings and-not just of us, but the universe itself, the more I find that people believe in this supreme being. I'm a Catholic and I practice but at the same time I have an open-mindedness to many other expressions of spirituality that come through different religions. I'm very respectful and am interested-I find it intriguing.

I went to Jerusalem a number of years ago on an official journey to Israel and I was absolutely fascinated by the 32 or so different branches of Catholicism that were there. That's before you even get to the conflict between Arabs and Jews. I have spent a lot of time since then trying to understand these fundamental differences between religions in order to really better understand the politics that grow out of them. So much of the conflict on the face of this planet is rooted in religions and the belief systems they give rise to. The fundamentalism of one entity or another.

So I really wanted to try to learn more. I've spent some time reading and thinking about it and trying to study it and I've arrived at not so much a sense of the differences but a sense of the similarities in so many ways; the value system roots and the linkages between the Torah, the Koran and the Bible and the fundamental story that runs through all of this, that connects us-and really connects all of us.

And so I've also always been fascinated by the Transcendentalists and the Pantheists and others who found these great connections just in nature, in trees, the ponds, the ripples of the wind on the pond, the great feast of nature itself. I think it's all an expression that grows out of this profound respect people have for those forces that human beings struggle to define and to explain. It's all a matter of spirituality.

I find that even - even atheists and agnostics wind up with some kind of spirituality, maybe begrudgingly acknowledging it here and there, but it's there. I think it's really intriguing. For instance, thinking about China, the people and their policy-how do we respond to their view of us? And how do they arrive at that view of us and of the world and of life choices? I think we have to think about those things in the context of the spiritual to completely understand where they are coming from. So here are a people who, you know, by and large, have a nation that has no theory of creationism. Well, that has to effect how you approach things. And until we think through how that might effect how you approach things, it's hard to figure out where you could find a meeting of the minds when approaching certain kinds of issues.

So, the exploration of all these things I find intriguing. Notwithstanding our separation between church and state, it is an essential ingredient of trying to piece together an approach to some of the great vexing questions we have internationally.


2 posted on 04/21/2005 5:30:23 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Senate switchboard: 202-225-3121. Reach out and complain to someone.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
A verse for (st.) John, and other welfareitus liberals to meditate on.

2 Thessalonians 3
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.

4 posted on 04/21/2005 5:53:13 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

How do the Lib 'Rats break down on theological lines? Are Bush's appointees of a particular denomination? I'd love to see a comparison just to find out if there is some old fahioned religious bigotry going on between all of the political-speak.


6 posted on 04/21/2005 6:50:43 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thanks for the info. God help us if Kerry had made president. His "spirituality" doesn't know the difference between Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Transcendentalists, New Age Pantheism, and Atheist China. He thinks they are all basically the same "spirituality."

We really dodged a bullet by him not getting in there.


11 posted on 04/21/2005 8:31:28 PM PDT by sasportas
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