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Door slams on foreign landscape workers
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 4-21-2005 | ART GOLAB

Posted on 04/21/2005 3:04:26 PM PDT by Prince Charles

Door slams on foreign landscape workers

April 21, 2005

BY ART GOLAB Staff Reporter

Hundreds of Mexican workers who used to come legally to the Chicago area every spring to do landscaping work have been denied seasonal work visas, leaving landscapers scrambling to find employees to mow and maintain lawns.

One Lake Bluff company applied for more than 150 visas and got none. Those slots make up half the company's seasonal work force, many of them regulars who have come up in the spring for several years.

"They are family members and friends of our current workers who count on this work each year," said Stacy Betz, human resources manager for Mariani Landscaping. "We've trained them and invested in them and they're fantastic individuals."

At least 600 and possibly up to 1,000 visas for landscaping positions in Illinois were denied this year, according to Patricia Cassady, executive director of the Illinois Landscape Contractors Association. One reason is that only 66,000 H-2B visas for temporary, seasonal non-agricultural workers are issued nationwide each year.

And in recent years, more employers such as hotels, restaurants, ski areas, construction companies, amusement parks, carnivals and even minor league baseball teams have become aware of the program and use it.

Early cutoff

This season, the government started taking applications in October and announced the cutoff had been reached by Jan. 3. Illinois got shortchanged because seasonal work starts earlier down south, said Cassady.

Federal legislation that would grandfather in workers who had obtained visas in previous years was approved in a preliminary Senate vote Monday, with both Illinois senators voting yes. But even if it passes Congress it may come too late for this season.

"We've already replaced most of the workers we had hoped to bring up," said Tracey Lester, who with her husband, Ron, owns Architerra in northwest suburban Indian Creek. Architerra had asked for 12 positions, 90 percent of its work force, and got none.

One of Lester's employees, Gerardo Acosta, had hoped to sponsor his cousin Miguel Lomas this year for the first time. "He was looking for a job to support himself and his family," said Acosta, a U.S. citizen. He said other Architerra employees on the visa program liked knowing that they had a job every year. "With the money, they could give their families a better life."

Lester liked the visa program because it provided her with legal workers who had undergone extensive background checks and were willing to work for the wages she can pay, which she says are higher than many landscapers employing undocumented workers.

"With this program you know what you're getting. You're bringing in good people, you're not rolling the dice."

And to politicians who oppose increasing the H-2B cap, Lester has one question: "Who's doing your lawn?"


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; h2bvisas; illegalaliens; limousineliberals
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To: wardaddy

Around here, you can see it mostly in construction and related businesses. Most everyone has been pushed out to make room for the lower cost illegals.


81 posted on 04/21/2005 6:43:26 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Travis McGee
I know, I know, but it's so tempting...
82 posted on 04/21/2005 6:44:44 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

What do you mean they 'go back home'? They don't go back home, they send their money back home.


83 posted on 04/21/2005 6:50:34 PM PDT by shattered
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To: Czar
It is like debating a Chinese communist party hack about the future of a free Taiwan. A party hack who is pretending to be impartial, over the internet. That's why I've pretty much given up on debating false flag freepers. They are not loyal Americans, dedicated to defending American sovereignty. They are sneaky weasels, working to destroy our nation, while pretending good intentions.

Quisling: a synonym for "traitor", someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

84 posted on 04/21/2005 6:54:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Prince Charles

I do my own.


85 posted on 04/21/2005 6:55:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: muawiyah
No one had to speak English, and no one was checked for disease.

Check your history, google "Irish coffin ships." The germ theory may have been unknown, but contagious diseases were VERY well known. Irish "coffin ships" carrying disease were held in quarantine berths until the disease burned out, and only the healthy (as far as could be determined in the 1840s) were allowed ashore.

86 posted on 04/21/2005 6:56:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Prince Charles

[["They are family members and friends of our current workers who count on this work each year," said Stacy Betz, human resources manager for Mariani Landscaping. "We've trained them and invested in them and they're fantastic individuals." ]]

Too damn bad! Who do you think did those jobs before the Mexicans came and undercut Americans? Hard working Americans thats who!

I have a better job. Hire Americans and pay them a decent wage and you will get the same quailty of work out of them.


87 posted on 04/21/2005 6:58:05 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Travis McGee
Depends on where your ship came in. All you had to do was show up at any number of tobacco ports and you were good to go. Show up in New York or Boston, and there'd be trouble.

But that was true of any ship that had some sign of a plague. You didn't have to be an immigrant to get held in port until all the sick people died.

In any case, you still didn't need to speak English or have a visa.

88 posted on 04/21/2005 7:01:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
What % of Irish came into uncontrolled "tobacco ports" compared to New York, Boston, Baltimore or Charleston?

Under 5%, I'd guess. Negligible.

89 posted on 04/21/2005 7:04:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

[[They pay cash for everything.]]

Thats because they are paid cash working under the table and NOT paying taxes like the rest of us native born hard working Americans. Another reason for them to get the f$$k back to Mexico. I'm tired of paying thier share of the taxes along with my own.


90 posted on 04/21/2005 7:05:08 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Travis McGee
Maryland, Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Delaware ~ the Southern part of this country certainly had their fair share of Irish immigrants, both in colonial times and after the Revolution, right on through the famine period.

Although Baltimore was a major drop-off point for immigrants (the Inner Harbor being Holy Ground as far as American history being involved), once your ship came in past the Capes and up the Bay, you could get off just about anywhere.

It's only in the last hundred years that our border has ceased to be "open".

91 posted on 04/21/2005 7:08:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hodar

Back in the old days in that area - high school kids worked in the apple & cherry orchards and some got to work in the wheat fields. Times have changed when they can't get hired because of the hispanic foremen??? Something real wrong with this picture.


92 posted on 04/21/2005 7:11:09 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: muawiyah; maica

I think you're making this up from whole cloth. The Irish didn't get "dropped off along the way," that's nonsense. The coffin ships were large "charter" ventures, with ships being bought and brokered for one specific voyage at a time, paid in full in Ireland. Cork to New York, for example. They did not "coast hop" dropping off Irish here and there. That's nonsense.


93 posted on 04/21/2005 7:12:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

How little you know about the customs of Chesapeake Bay. This was not New York Harbor, and not all the Irish came on chartered boats.


94 posted on 04/21/2005 7:15:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Clemenza
Plenty of retailers hire kids for the summer, at least in New York/Florida/Illinois/Western Washington. Probably true in the rest of the country as well.

Sorry to vehemently disagree with you, but when you have a town with a population well below 50,000; and a Class AA High School, there are a LOT of High School kids. Now, most of the retailers need people who can work a regular schedule; not someone who will be around for the summer, then part time through the school year, with days off for Ball games, Home/Away games plus the regular social calendar that High School kids enjoy. Those employers are far and few between.

95 posted on 04/21/2005 7:24:27 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: blau993

The HS kids who are looking to earn a few bucks work for the lawn guy. The Salvadorans work a hell of a lot harder. I did a lot of grass cutting and snow shoveling as a kid (thank God I now don't have to do it), but I never worked as hard as these guys work.


96 posted on 04/21/2005 7:28:49 PM PDT by blau993 (Labs for love; .357 for Security.)
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To: Travis McGee
http://www.cestim.org/14clandestino_usa.htm refers numerous times to ships arriving clandestinely from other countries, China among them, in the 1990's.

Now, think real hard on this question ~ if, in the 20th century, with high levels of detection available, ships can actually enter and land passengers in the United States UNDETECTED, just how difficult do you think it was for them to do so in colonial times, or even up to the time of the Civil War?

BTW, that site estimates the illegal alien population at about 5 million.

97 posted on 04/21/2005 7:43:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

An illegal alien caused a wreck in which an 18 month old baby was killed here last week. I know exactly what they do on the highways.


98 posted on 04/21/2005 7:48:20 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: muawiyah

I know a bit about the Irish diaspora. Your scenario of coast hopping Irish cruise ships does not match what I have read, not at all.


99 posted on 04/21/2005 7:52:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis,

Do you have any idea what you are doing to my "ulcer"?


100 posted on 04/21/2005 7:56:48 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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