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Door slams on foreign landscape workers
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 4-21-2005 | ART GOLAB

Posted on 04/21/2005 3:04:26 PM PDT by Prince Charles

Door slams on foreign landscape workers

April 21, 2005

BY ART GOLAB Staff Reporter

Hundreds of Mexican workers who used to come legally to the Chicago area every spring to do landscaping work have been denied seasonal work visas, leaving landscapers scrambling to find employees to mow and maintain lawns.

One Lake Bluff company applied for more than 150 visas and got none. Those slots make up half the company's seasonal work force, many of them regulars who have come up in the spring for several years.

"They are family members and friends of our current workers who count on this work each year," said Stacy Betz, human resources manager for Mariani Landscaping. "We've trained them and invested in them and they're fantastic individuals."

At least 600 and possibly up to 1,000 visas for landscaping positions in Illinois were denied this year, according to Patricia Cassady, executive director of the Illinois Landscape Contractors Association. One reason is that only 66,000 H-2B visas for temporary, seasonal non-agricultural workers are issued nationwide each year.

And in recent years, more employers such as hotels, restaurants, ski areas, construction companies, amusement parks, carnivals and even minor league baseball teams have become aware of the program and use it.

Early cutoff

This season, the government started taking applications in October and announced the cutoff had been reached by Jan. 3. Illinois got shortchanged because seasonal work starts earlier down south, said Cassady.

Federal legislation that would grandfather in workers who had obtained visas in previous years was approved in a preliminary Senate vote Monday, with both Illinois senators voting yes. But even if it passes Congress it may come too late for this season.

"We've already replaced most of the workers we had hoped to bring up," said Tracey Lester, who with her husband, Ron, owns Architerra in northwest suburban Indian Creek. Architerra had asked for 12 positions, 90 percent of its work force, and got none.

One of Lester's employees, Gerardo Acosta, had hoped to sponsor his cousin Miguel Lomas this year for the first time. "He was looking for a job to support himself and his family," said Acosta, a U.S. citizen. He said other Architerra employees on the visa program liked knowing that they had a job every year. "With the money, they could give their families a better life."

Lester liked the visa program because it provided her with legal workers who had undergone extensive background checks and were willing to work for the wages she can pay, which she says are higher than many landscapers employing undocumented workers.

"With this program you know what you're getting. You're bringing in good people, you're not rolling the dice."

And to politicians who oppose increasing the H-2B cap, Lester has one question: "Who's doing your lawn?"


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; h2bvisas; illegalaliens; limousineliberals
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To: Czar; wardaddy

I'm surprised you haven't called WD a lazy traitorous piece of crap for not doing his own lawn, according to your usual bombast rhetoric.


61 posted on 04/21/2005 5:40:03 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw
What the hell are you rambling about? Illegals are illegal. What frikkin' part of that do you not understand?

I have to go get Pedro now...my lawn needs cutting and Maria needs to wash the windows.....

FMCDH(BITS)

62 posted on 04/21/2005 5:40:41 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Prince Charles
Do I understand this correctly? Fewer visas are issued so fewer immigrants will come here legally? That means there will be a higher demand for illegal immigrants? Right?

Or will that landscaping company on the super-white-liberal lakeshore employ excons citizens just let out of prison to do the yard work? Yeah, sure.

We just might discover that we don't live in a zero sum game.

63 posted on 04/21/2005 5:51:53 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw
That may be true but surely you have been reading about China. The brightest are taught English, same way in Japan.

My grand niece, high school graduate, taught English in Japan, when her husband was sent to Japan for several years by his employer, [an auto company].

Germans are also required to learn English.

I wonder at times how many countries print their ballots in so many different languages?
64 posted on 04/21/2005 5:56:03 PM PDT by frannie (don't worry about tomorrow -- God is already there)
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To: Dane
It's right wing affirmative action.

If I wasn't FORCED to pay for their benefits I wouldn't care who they hired as long as they are LEGAL! It is my business when I am FORCED to subsidize their immigrant employees.

65 posted on 04/21/2005 5:56:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dane; wardaddy
You seem to have deteriorated from mere babbling into some kind of psychotic fog of incoherence...

At least try to put together a few rational thoughts.

66 posted on 04/21/2005 5:59:27 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: frannie
I wonder at times how many countries print their ballots in so many different languages?

You can thank SCOTUS for that. I'm all for English being the official language of the govt..

67 posted on 04/21/2005 6:00:12 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Yo-Yo
And this is different from Americans who are on welfare or unemployment how?

They are CITIZENS of this country, that's how it is different. I don't approve of all of that either but, at least, they are CITIZENS. Why should taxpayer's be FORCED to subsidize people who aren't CITIZENS?!

68 posted on 04/21/2005 6:01:38 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
If I wasn't FORCED to pay for their benefits I wouldn't care who they hired as long as they are LEGAL! It is my business when I am FORCED to subsidize their immigrant employees.

You're forced to subsidize for native born Americans also(i.e welfare, etc.etc).

You wouldn't be so transparent if you didn't rant against immigrants exclusively.

69 posted on 04/21/2005 6:03:04 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Prince Charles
"Who's doing your lawn?"

Same two people who have always done it, along with the weeding, sweeping, watering, planting, and those two people would be me and my handsome husband of 45 years. If the time comes when we need help, we'll hire Americans, if there are any of them left.

70 posted on 04/21/2005 6:06:36 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Czar

I know many here including conservatives mostly who make a strong effort not to use anyone who hires illegals...even if it cost more.

I have begun to insist on it with my general contractors but the illegals and their leaders have caught on....fake documents are everywhere.

They flash Drivers Licenses and claim citizenship.

I know some early Mexican immigrants here who started restaurants 25 years ago in Middle Tenn. They will tell you that at least 70% of the hispanics in Middle Tenn are illegal or on expired paper. I would guess that is over 100,000. And Hispanics are not the only groups here. The Nigerians and some Asians are known to harbour illegals too. I know a fair number of Kurds, Russians, Serbs and Croats and they tend to be legal.

One who owns a chain of restaurants here remarked to me that he left Mexico to escape this. I then asked him if there were any illegals in his kitchens? You could hear a pin drop.


71 posted on 04/21/2005 6:09:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!)
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To: Dane
Maybe you should read what I wrote before showing your ignorance. I don't like subsidizing anyone but if I am going to help anyone they should AT LEAST be a CITIZEN of this country! I really don't care what you think about who I am willing to support with my tax dollars since you think the American People should let all ILLEGALS in and treat them as if they were CITIZENS.
72 posted on 04/21/2005 6:10:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Meldrim
Clean pools and mowed lawns are nice, but not at the expense of a balkanized, bilingual nation.

BINGO!

73 posted on 04/21/2005 6:10:50 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Czar

I would estimate that here anyhow, any construction that has to do with cement is very very likely to have illegals employed.

That used to be black dominated. When the first hispanic phalanxes moved north when Houston slowed down 15 years ago slowly put the blacks out of business.


74 posted on 04/21/2005 6:11:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!)
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To: Travis McGee

BTTT


75 posted on 04/21/2005 6:14:36 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: wardaddy
I have begun to insist on it with my general contractors but the illegals and their leaders have caught on....fake documents are everywhere

Are you disappointed with their work?

Is the food bad where you frequent that mexican restaurant?

76 posted on 04/21/2005 6:19:43 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Czar
Why debate false flag freepers, who are not dedicated to preserving American sovereignty?

Quisling A word Norwegians are not very proud of having given to the world: it derives from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a Norwegian politician who collaborated with the Nazis during World War II. He established his name as a synonym for "traitor", someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country, especially by serving in a puppet government. Quisling was found guilty of high treason in 1945, and was executed by firing squad on the 24th October 1945.

77 posted on 04/21/2005 6:32:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Meldrim
A little historic correction ~ most of the Irish arrived in the first half of the 19th Century. At that time immigrants needed no visas or identity papers. No one had to speak English, and no one was checked for disease. In fact, the germ theory of disease had not yet been developed so folks didn't have an idea of what caused disease anyway ~ many felt miasmas in the swamps were the primary cause.

Notice that I said "most" arrived in the first half of th 19th Century. As it turns out, however, most persons of Irish descent will discover their earliest Irish ancestors to have arrived in the 18th Century. An even bigger surprise will be that if they were churched at all they were Protestants ~ and I'm not talking about Scots-Irish, but Irish folk themselves.

The fellows coming off the prison barges (and yes, you can find out which ones on the net if you wish) had no papers, no money, little command of English, and probably knew more about fist fighting then any immigrants to America before or since.

There were even Irish people coming to America in the 17th Century, and if truth be told, probably in the 16th Century on Spanish and French ships.

78 posted on 04/21/2005 6:33:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dane

The "Irish need not apply" signs are more apocryphal than real. Somebody might have put one up, but the earliest Irish came directly off prison barges into indenture. They had no need whatsoever to apply for jobs anyway.


79 posted on 04/21/2005 6:36:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wardaddy
"I then asked him if there were any illegals in his kitchens? You could hear a pin drop."

Brave of you, but I would be careful about checking your food carefully the next time you are there...

80 posted on 04/21/2005 6:39:36 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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