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Wall Street speculates on General Motors bankruptcy
SupplierBusiness.COM ^ | 04-18-2005 | SupplierBusiness

Posted on 04/20/2005 8:21:13 PM PDT by WildPlum

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Kiss those sweet "union contracts" and employee pension goodbye GM!

Of course, we the taxpayer will have to compensate for the promised pensions.

Also, Chrysler and Ford would soon follow to remain in the game.

1 posted on 04/20/2005 8:21:13 PM PDT by WildPlum
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Might have helped if they redesigned rather than axed the F-body to compete with the Mustang


2 posted on 04/20/2005 8:27:07 PM PDT by Crazieman (UESR: Union of European Socialist Republics)
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they will receive loan guarantees from the US government to stay in business.

way to much GM bashing on FR. This company saved the US economy from going into a deep recession after 9-11 by moving forward with 0% financing. Their newer model cars are fine.

and it says alot about our economy that our auto businesses are dying, while profits are flying high at brokerage firms. the "paper economy" of real estate swaps and bond trades is our strength now, while US companies that actually try to do engineering and manufacturing are dying.


3 posted on 04/20/2005 8:29:37 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: WildPlum
The U.S.A. needs more bicycles as a 3rd world nation.....

:-)

GM is now involved in Nation Building?

4 posted on 04/20/2005 8:34:57 PM PDT by maestro
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To: oceanview

I doubt they will get loan guarantees. The general opinion in Congress seems to be "too bad", as it is on the streets.

Their newer product, with the exception of the RWD product (few and far between) is absolute *crap*. Nobody is buying it. Though they are buying the RWD stuff, they have officially killed off the low-cost RWD platform that was going to revolutionize their lineup. Ooops.

US companies that do engineering and manufacturing without the battleship chain and anchor of a UAW or CFL or other enormous fat bloated union around their necks are doing just fine. Of course, I refer only to those with clueful management, which GM doesn't have either.


5 posted on 04/20/2005 8:38:28 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: WildPlum

Short sellers highly organized and determined. Bad news, bad news, this is scary, watch out below, etc., etc.


6 posted on 04/20/2005 8:38:44 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: oceanview

I agree. Way too much paper trading and speculating. Way too little actual production. The gas prices are in part due to speculation....paper trading.


7 posted on 04/20/2005 8:41:04 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Spktyr

the Kappa RWD cars will be produced.


8 posted on 04/20/2005 8:43:09 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: WildPlum
Watch it. This is just the beginning...
Big companies are going bankrupt one by one.

America has been poisoned by too much credit!

9 posted on 04/20/2005 8:43:55 PM PDT by blueberry12
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they will receive loan guarantees from the US government to stay in business.

They don't need or want loan guarantees. They just want to break the union contracts and wipe retiree committments off their books.

After that, they will be fine while the taxpayer picks up most of the pension obligations.

Yet again, other group of voters that will be dependent on gov't funds.

10 posted on 04/20/2005 8:44:41 PM PDT by WildPlum
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how long it would be before General Motors declared bankruptcy.

Now that's serious union busting.  China is licking it's choppers.

12 posted on 04/20/2005 8:45:35 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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We see here the concept of deep and serious poop.


13 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:23 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Crazieman
the only redesign they could do to keep up with the Mustang was to Retrostye it (ford did outstanding job by the way), cause the standard Z/28 OWNED all but the exotic Horses... and they cost twice as much.

that and the insuance companies just go wild over the Z/28 and Trans-Am cause they'll do over 150MPH... my 94Z is on it's third carrier. most of the kids that can afford them can't get them insured, or if they can... they can't afford it

14 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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But Zeta, which is the sedan platform, has been killed. Kappa cars will not make a huge percentage of sales - convertibles/coupes never have. Their bread and butter are sedans, and they have nothing in the pipe that's interesting. The G6 is a pile of crap, the Impala is a joke with no replacement in sight, the Malibu is an embarassment... I can go on and on.


15 posted on 04/20/2005 8:50:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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This company saved the US economy from going into a deep recession after 9-11 by moving forward with 0% financing.

That is a bit of a stretch but it does help.  I bought a 2002 Ford Ranger, 4X4, off road package, for $0 down and 0% interest financed by Ford Credit.

I should have bought two.

16 posted on 04/20/2005 8:51:00 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Chode

Yeah I know, I own a 1998 Z28. I'm under 25.

The insurance was more than the payments (paid the car off though!).

Its crazy.


17 posted on 04/20/2005 8:51:30 PM PDT by Crazieman (UESR: Union of European Socialist Republics)
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To: oceanview
"This company saved the US economy from going into a deep recession after 9-11 by moving forward with 0% financing."

I would love to actually see some numbers or research to back up this claim. It sounds like a wild exaggeration to me.
18 posted on 04/20/2005 8:53:50 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (Aren't you glad we're thanking the Lord for a nautically themed gay bar?)
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To: Rickkimble

GM's Balance Sheet:

Total Cash - 26.39B
Total Cash Per Share - 46.75
Total Debt - 291.83B
Total Debt/Equity - 11.399

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=GM


19 posted on 04/20/2005 8:56:18 PM PDT by blueberry12
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"...low-cost RWD platform"

How about GM's Holden division from down under.

www.holden.com.au


20 posted on 04/20/2005 8:56:47 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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