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Kiss those sweet "union contracts" and employee pension goodbye GM!

Of course, we the taxpayer will have to compensate for the promised pensions.

Also, Chrysler and Ford would soon follow to remain in the game.

1 posted on 04/20/2005 8:21:13 PM PDT by WildPlum
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Might have helped if they redesigned rather than axed the F-body to compete with the Mustang


2 posted on 04/20/2005 8:27:07 PM PDT by Crazieman (UESR: Union of European Socialist Republics)
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they will receive loan guarantees from the US government to stay in business.

way to much GM bashing on FR. This company saved the US economy from going into a deep recession after 9-11 by moving forward with 0% financing. Their newer model cars are fine.

and it says alot about our economy that our auto businesses are dying, while profits are flying high at brokerage firms. the "paper economy" of real estate swaps and bond trades is our strength now, while US companies that actually try to do engineering and manufacturing are dying.


3 posted on 04/20/2005 8:29:37 PM PDT by oceanview
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The U.S.A. needs more bicycles as a 3rd world nation.....

:-)

GM is now involved in Nation Building?

4 posted on 04/20/2005 8:34:57 PM PDT by maestro
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Short sellers highly organized and determined. Bad news, bad news, this is scary, watch out below, etc., etc.


6 posted on 04/20/2005 8:38:44 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Watch it. This is just the beginning...
Big companies are going bankrupt one by one.

America has been poisoned by too much credit!

9 posted on 04/20/2005 8:43:55 PM PDT by blueberry12
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how long it would be before General Motors declared bankruptcy.

Now that's serious union busting.  China is licking it's choppers.

12 posted on 04/20/2005 8:45:35 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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We see here the concept of deep and serious poop.


13 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:23 PM PDT by Semper
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Have never bought a GM.

My mom had a 1988 Buick Park Avenue that ran forever, except the paint crazed and went white (on a black car) and they would not cover it though clearly the paint was defective. Several years later she bought a 1994 LeSabre with the same engine, except the interior was even crappier.

Aside from the 3.8L V6, which was designed in either the late 50s or early 60s, the cars have no redeeming features.

My first car was a VW Golf, then a Saab 9000 Turbo (loved it), then a Saab 900 (tanklike but not as refined as the 9000), now a Toyota Echo ... next car or pickup will also be a Toyota.

21 posted on 04/20/2005 8:56:54 PM PDT by ikka
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A GM bankruptcy would be worse for the unions which are driving US competitiveness in certain industries into the ground, than it would be for the corporate world.

Let it happen. The US economy can survive it more smoothly than many seem to expect.


26 posted on 04/20/2005 9:10:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Need quote from supporter)
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They need to make vehicles like this again:

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1968 Buick Wildcat
29 posted on 04/20/2005 9:17:19 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage Listener - Any Questions?)
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GM's share price in the past 12 months

Sounds like a good time to buy GM stock.

I wouldn't put it past Deutsche Bank to do some kind of deal to buy out GM.

DB just bought out a big US mortgage company in Boston, and they're looking for US assets because German law just changed last year allowing them to do so.

DB has some really, really bright people in their NY office.

31 posted on 04/20/2005 9:18:49 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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Anyone want to get together on an LBO of GM?


32 posted on 04/20/2005 9:20:04 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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Watch for a UAW buyout like American Airlines. It will be equally successful.


38 posted on 04/20/2005 9:26:18 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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Time to start revvin up them rickshaw and rice bowl assembly lines -


39 posted on 04/20/2005 9:28:37 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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We are Third World bound.


55 posted on 04/20/2005 11:34:11 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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..GM has studied Toyota but not taken any effective action to adapt its own culture to complete...

This sums it up nicely. Meanwhile, execs loot the ship before she sinks!

57 posted on 04/20/2005 11:38:00 PM PDT by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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Mediocre product and grotesquely greedy unions have brought this on. The unions deserve to get the shaft in this case, demanding ridiculous compensation for labor of dubious value. The average compensation exceeds that of many highly educated and technical professions. Burn, baby, burn.

The only downside is that the US taxpayer will probably also get the shaft as a side-effect. Oh well. Another day in paradise.

58 posted on 04/20/2005 11:40:03 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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GM has studied Toyota but not taken any effective action to adapt its own culture to complete.

Too timid. GM's board should replace the current management with managers from Toyota.

60 posted on 04/21/2005 12:14:54 AM PDT by snowsislander
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An indication of GM's problems is that it's replacement parts have been extremely expensive when compared to at least some other automakers. GM, to my knowledge, has never been able to reach needed agreeements with its suppliers to produce lower cost parts.


64 posted on 04/21/2005 4:52:51 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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Weak management and corrupt unions are to blame for this current imbroglio. They managed to sink the steel industry in the country and are well on the way to doing the same to the auto industry. By the way, the UAW is pulling the same strategy on Caterpillar.


72 posted on 04/21/2005 8:29:02 AM PDT by hgro (ews)
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