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To: T.L.Sink; Recovering Ex-hippie
I think the pursuit of leftist dogma (that you refer to on your profile page) has somehow affected your view of Vietnam veterans in a harmful way. For your own revalation, I suggest you get off your high horse and go to a VA hospital/nursing home (there's on in Lake City, Florida), and visit with some permanently screwed up guys from Vietnam.

Go to a biker rally and meet some Vietnam vets and listen to their stories about how Hanoi Jane personally affected them. You will find out that many have endured years of the "Hanoi Jane scourge" regardless of of whether or not the were physically spat upon.

Idiots like Hanoi Jane and her boy, Traitor Kerry, thought they had slid past the radar, but both are finding out that they were: "WRONG THEN, and WRONG STILL TODAY".

50 posted on 04/21/2005 12:06:33 AM PDT by Chieftain (Thanks to the Swift Boat Veterans, Vietnam Veterans, and POW's for Truth for standing tall.)
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To: Chieftain
Hey Gunny!

I don't agree with spitting chaw on Hanoi Jane.....but I gotta cut the guy slack. I wouldn't have had anything better to say to her either.

I can think of a thousand things that would mess up her book signing. 999 illegal. But you need only one, one good one.

Picture banner of Hanoi Jane on that NVA gun mount. Picture banner of US POWs right next to it. And a crowd of Vets, in a face off, staring and Silent

BIGLOOK, E/W A/C off the North Vietnamese coast.......Where in the Hell are those A6s?

52 posted on 04/21/2005 12:41:00 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Chieftain; redrock

I agree with much of what you both said. Certainly no
one who is rational would question the bravery and the
sacrifice of the 58,000 Americans who died in VietNam
or the many more who experienced physical and psychological
injury. All I am contending is that there comes a time
to stop fighting yesterday's battles. It was, after all,
the great liberal LBJ who lied our way into this war with
his phony "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution". I realize that it's
not easy for those who were directly involved in this war
and those difficult times to forgive and forget. But at
some point we must move on. Forgive the history lesson
but the American Civil War cost 620,000 lives between
1861-65 when the population of the country was only about
40 million. It ravaged the South and greatly affected
the politics and culture of the North. Probably the
greatest President - Lincoln - saw his primary responsibility as healer and peacemaker and in the short
time before his assassination he spoke in terms of
a peace characterized by "malice towards none". He certainly knew that these hatreds and animosities of the
past would not be short-lived. But it was his message
and spirit of reconciliation that preserved the Union --
not the War and its horrible cost -- in the long term.
I think we do ourselves and the highest military tradition
a disservice if we continue to impugn the motives and
character of those who disagreed with us 35 or more years
ago. Some things should not be forgot but they should be
placed in historical context. To refuse to move on is
only to perpetuate a dissension that serves no positive
purpose.


76 posted on 04/21/2005 4:08:21 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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