Posted on 04/20/2005 1:06:31 PM PDT by white trash redneck
George Soros told a carefully vetted gathering of 70 likeminded millionaires and billionaires last weekend that they must be patient if they want to realize long-term political and ideological yields from an expected massive investment in "startup" progressive think tanks.
The Scottsdale, Ariz., meeting, called to start the process of building an ideas production line for liberal politicians, began what organizers hope will be a long dialogue with the "partners," many from the high-tech industry. Participants have begun to refer to themselves as the Phoenix Group.
Rob Stein, a veteran of President Bill Clinton's Commerce Department and of New York investment banking, convened the meeting of venture capitalists, left-leaning moneymen and a select few D.C. strategists on how to seed pro-Democratic think tanks, media outlets and leadership schools to compete with such entrenched conservative institutions as the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute and the Leadership Institute.
Senior Democratic National Committee (DNC) officials were quietly briefed about the meeting in recent weeks. DNC Chairman Howard Dean was aware of it, in part though his friendship with Stein, but one senior DNC source said the organizers "kept that list [of attendees] kind of tight."
Sarah Ingersoll, de facto spokeswoman for Stein's Democracy Alliance, said it was "a very preliminary meeting of committed donors interested in building a community to support progressive infrastructure."
The Democracy Alliance will act as a clearinghouse and is expected to channel much of its money to new organizations and existing ones such as John Podesta's Center for American Progress and David Brock's Media Matters for America.
The money details are several weeks away. "There aren't dollar figures at this point," Ingersoll said.
Soros, a Hungarian-born financier who donated more than $23 million to pro-Democratic 527 groups last cycle, gave the main presentation, said Ingersoll, who declined to name the other presenters.
"Primarily, we're looking at making recommendations and thinking through with these donors on how they can form an alliance," she added. "This is about creating a network of individuals to share information to be effective in whatever they do going forward."
Participants were tight-lipped, saying they wanted to keep media expectations low, even suggesting that the Scottsdale gathering was too insignificant to report. Other participants included former White House press secretary Mike McCurry and New Democrat Network president Simon Rosenberg. Andy Rappaport, a Silicon Valley venture capitalist and reliable investor in liberal causes, did not attend the meeting, his spokeswomen said.
Ingersoll said funding transparency is a priority, which she said would contrast with some right-wing groups.
But transparency was not on display among the Scottsdale participants contacted by The Hill. Details of the meeting remained sparse.
Most of the participants had already seen Stein's slick presentation titled "The Conservative Message Machine's Money Matrix," which lays out how right-leaning donors have funded and invested in organization that churn out conservative ideas. Stein unveiled his presentation at the Democratic National Convention in Boston last year, at an event hosted by Rosenberg and NDN.
Ingersoll denied that progressives are merely trying to replicate Heritage and Fox News.
Another source at the meeting said that it was important for existing progressive groups to coordinate their activities and to avoid the turf wars that have riven progressive causes in the past.
One source at the DNC with direct knowledge of the agenda said that the Phoenix Group had three specific goals at the outset. It wants to create liberal think tanks, training camps for young progressives and media centers.
Despite the general recognition that progressives are several years behind conservatives, liberal activists are confident that technology will help them close the gap. "Technology may allow us to do in a few years what it took the other side 40 years," the DNC source said.
But the Phoenix Group is not beholden to the political calendar, and several sources insisted that four-year electoral exigencies were not motivating the project. Indeed, part of the reasoning in keeping D.C. consultants away from Scottsdale was to shield the high-tech donor base from political operatives, who are always eager for quick dollars to buy media points and fund direct mail.
"This is bigger than that," the DNC source said
Since they're all egalitarians, I think it's safe to say we all know what their Big Think ideas will be about: more forced equality, more state control, more pornography, abortion and degeneracy.
The simnple fact of the matter is Soros' band of lunatics has nothing think *about*.
As in Phoenix, rising from the ashes?
oh Soros, you pathetic thing, we're not done grinding the Dems into the ashheap of history just yet.....
70 select Million and Billionaires?
Ya think that's enough people and $s to manipulate the Market?
The market hasn't looked right since the begining of the slide.
Well-said. I was a bit awkward in how I phrased my point, but it's essentially that conservatism is fueled by ideas; since the left's ideas are bankrupt, they're only hope is to more effectively spread their lies through skillful use of technology.
Burns promotes use of nuclear energy.
Don't we have an extradition treaty with Transylvania? Let's send no-count Dracula back to where he will be appreciated, along with his economy-busting hedge funds.
Revelation 9
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
I don't like it that people like Soros can attempt to get their way simply because they have the big bucks to promote their causes (I guess I'm an idealist) and I don't care to have my country turn out to look like the inside of George Soros' head. This is my country just as much as it is his -- even moreso. I was born here, and my place was earned here by the sweat and blood of my ancestors. I expect to be able to live here in peace, raise my children, and mind my own business. I didn't just show up one day with a big bank account and expect to get my way. So I invite the twisted, communist, culture-of-death advocate George Soros, U.S. citizen or not, to take his money, shove it where the sun doesn't shine, and go to hell.
'jever notice you never see Soros and Dr. Strangelove in the same room ?
We can call them the Vast Plutocracy for the Re-creation of Serfdom.
We can call them the Vast Plutocracy for the Re-creation of Serfdom.
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; In that very day his thoughts perish. (Psalm 146:4)
What an awakening, so to speak, for all these 'world-planners'.
They can spend all they want on "think tanks" but it won't do much good if they don't come up with any new ideas.
Reminds me of the Nazi party. What with the phoenix thing and all.
Who are the other 69 rich dem-O-rats?
Be nice to have a list of the opposition.
I think this is the most ironic thing about this story. The use of these people's language is so contradictory
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