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Benedict Showed 2 Sides After Pope's Death ~~ not all are Happy with the new Pope.
Las Vegas Sun ^ | April 19, 2005 at 15:43:22 PDT | BRIAN MURPHY ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 04/19/2005 3:55:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

VATICAN CITY (AP) -

0419pope-benedict Two images of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger stood in sharp relief during the mourning period for the pope he would eventually succeed. With his wispy silver hair blowing in the wind, the German prelate stood before the world's political and spiritual leaders at John Paul II's funeral April 8 and offered an eloquent, sensitive farewell that moved some to tears.

Ten days later - just before Ratzinger and 114 other cardinals entered the conclave to select the 265th pontiff - he delivered a sharp-edged homily on strict obedience to church teachings that left liberal Catholics wincing.

"He could be a wedge rather than a unifier for the church," said the Rev. Thomas Reese, editor of the Jesuit weekly magazine America.

This was clear in St. Peter's Square moments after the announcement of Ratzinger's election and the name chosen by the first Germanic pope in 1,000 years: Benedict XVI. Amid the applause were groans and pockets of stunned silence.

"It's Ratzinger," French pilgrim Silvie Genthial, 52, barked into her cellular phone before hanging up.

"We were all hoping for a different pope - a Latin American perhaps - but not an ultraconservative like this," she said.

But others hugged and toasted the new pope with red wine. "A clear and true voice of faith," said Maria Piscini, an 80-year-old Italian grandmother, raising a paper cup filled with pinot noir.

The cardinals who selected him knew it would be received this way.

Perhaps no member of the conclave evoked such potent opinions - and has stirred more arguments - as the 78-year-old Ratzinger and the role he's held since 1981: head of the powerful Vatican office that oversees doctrine and takes action against dissent.

"We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as for certain and which has as its highest goal one's own ego and one's own desires," he said Monday in a pre-conclave Mass in memory of John Paul. The church, he insisted, must defend itself against threats such as "radical individualism" and "vague religious mysticism."

As prefect of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, he was the Vatican's iron hand.

His interventions are a roll call of flashpoints for the church: the 1987 order stripping American theologian the Rev. Charles Curran of the right to teach because he encouraged dissent; crippling Latin Americans supporting the popular "liberation theology" movement for alleged Marxist leanings; coming down hard on efforts to rewrite Scriptures in gender inclusive language.

He also shows no flexibility on the church's views on priestly celibacy, contraception and the ban on ordinations for women.

In 1986, he denounced rock music as the "vehicle of anti-religion." In 1988, he dismissed anyone who tried to find "feminist" meanings in the Bible. Last year, he told American bishops that it was allowable to deny Communion to those who support such "manifest grave sin" as abortion and euthanasia.

He earned unflattering nicknames such as Panzercardinal, God's rottweiler, and the Grand Inquisitor. Cartoonists emphasized his deep-set eyes and Italians lampooned his pronounced German accent.

"Indeed, it would be hard to find a Catholic controversy in the past 20 years that did not somehow involve Joseph Ratzinger," John Allen, a Vatican reporter for the National Catholic Register, wrote six years ago.

But among conservatives, he rose in stature. An online fan club sings his praises and offers souvenirs with the slogan: "Putting the smackdown on heresy since 1981."

Even John Paul apparently needed him close by. Several times Ratzinger said he tendered his resignation because of his age, but each time it was rejected by the pope.

In recent years, he took on issues outside church doctrine. He once called Buddhism a religion for the self-indulgent. In an interview with the French magazine Le Figaro last year, he suggested Turkey's bid to join the Europe Union conflicted with Europe's Christian roots - a view that could unsettle Vatican attempts to improve relations with Muslims.

"Turkey has always represented a different continent, in permanent contrast to Europe," he was quoted as saying.

In a book released last week, "Values in a Time of Upheavals," Ratzinger also called demands for European "multiculturalism" as a "fleeing from what is one's own."

"If he continues as pope the way he was as a cardinal, I think we will see a polarized church," said David Gibson, a former Vatican Radio journalist and author of a book on trends in the church. "He has said himself that he wanted a smaller, but purer, church."

Critics complain Ratzinger embodies all the conservative instincts of the last papacy, but without John Paul's charisma and pastoral genius.

"I think this is the closest the church can come to human cloning," quipped Gibson.

It's a joke not too far off the mark.

Both John Paul II and his successor were forged by the horrors of World War II and advanced in the church in the shadow of the Iron Curtain. They also shared a deep drive to try to use Christianity as a grand unifier for the continent following the collapse of the Berlin Wall.

But the Polish pontiff came from a nation that suffered greatly during the war. Ratzinger - like many from his generation - carries the burdens and ghosts of Germany's past.

Raised in the oak forest and pine foothills of Bavaria, he said he was enrolled in Hitler's Nazi youth movement against his will. At the same time, the policeman's son entered seminary studies in 1939 as a 12-year-old with "joy and great expectations," according to his memoirs.

He recalled being deeply moved by the rituals of the church, such as candlelight services and midnight Mass.

But in 1943, he was drafted as an assistant to a Nazi anti-aircraft unit in Munich. Later, he was shipped off to build tank barriers at the Austian-Hungarian border. He wrote that he escaped recruitment by the dreaded SS because he and others said they were training to be priests.

"We were sent out with mockery and verbal abuse," he wrote. "But these insults tasted wonderful because they freed us from the threat of that deceitful `voluntary service' and all its consequences."

He deserted in April 1945 and returned home to Traunstein. It was a risky move, since deserters were shot or hanged. But the Third Reich was collapsing.

"The Americans finally arrived in our village," he wrote. "Even though our house lacked all comfort, they chose it as their headquarters."

Ratzinger was identified as a deserter and placed in prisoner of war camp near Ulm in southern Germany. He wrote that he could see the spires of the city's cathedral in the distance.

"It was, for me, like a consoling proclamation of the indescribable humaneness of faith," he wrote.

He and his older brother, Georg, were ordained in 1951. He taught theology and earned a reputation as a forward-looking prelate and took part in the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, a major attempt to modernize the faith.

His doctoral dissertation on the medieval theologian St. Bonaventure tried to draw attention to "dangerous relativism" - a message that he echoed at Mass on Monday.

He also tried to combine his belief in Christianity's ecumenical message with his views on the special role of Judaism.

"That the Jews are connected with God in a special way and that God does not want that bond to fail is entirely obvious," he wrote in his book, "God and the World," published in 2000. "We wait for the instant in which Israel will say `yes' to Christ, but we know that it has a special mission in history now."

"First and foremost, he's a theologian. He's an intellectual," said the Rev. Martin Bialas, who has known Ratzinger for 35 years and was his student. "By nature, he's someone who prefers to stay in the background."

In 1977, Ratzinger was appointed bishop of Munich and elevated to cardinal three months later by Pope Paul VI. He was one of only two cardinals in the latest conclave that was not chosen by John Paul.

The name he took - Benedict - draws a connection to Benedict XV, the Italian pontiff from 1914 to 1922 who had the difficult task of providing leadership for Catholic countries on opposite sides of World War I. His declared neutrality, and his repeated protests against weapons like poison gas angered both sides.

Benedict was also known for reaching out to Muslims and for efforts to close the nearly 1,000-year estrangement with Christian Orthodox churches - a possible signal that this could be an important priority of the new papacy.

"The name Benedict XVI leaves the possibility open for a more moderate policy," said the Swiss theologian Hans Kueng, whose license to teach theology was revoked by the Vatican in 1979. "Let us, therefore, give him a chance. As with the president of the USA, we should allow a new pope 100 days to learn."

But Kueng already has formed his judgment: "An enormous disappointment for all those who hoped for a reformist and pastoral pope."

His first major test could be in August in his homeland. World Youth Day - a favorite event of John Paul - is scheduled in the city of Cologne and is expected to draw hundreds of thousands of young Catholics.

"Pope John Paul II always said that we must have a new beginning, a new evangelization of Europe that will plant the seeds of belief in the hearts of people again," said Philip Hockerts, spokesman for the Regensburg diocese in southern Germany. "It could well be that (Benedict XVI) wants to carry forth this new evangelizing."

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To: frogjerk

In the spirit of full disclosure, I must admit to eating tofu hot dogs. But I'm certainly not going to let that stop me from laughing at a good joke : )


41 posted on 04/19/2005 4:30:58 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks, Ernest.


42 posted on 04/19/2005 4:31:09 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Would have been interesting to have heard my father's opinion if he were still alive. I remember back in '83 he said that he thought the pope after Pope John Paul would be the one to be a pope who would try to bring down the Catholic church. I am sure he would have been happier with this choice.


43 posted on 04/19/2005 4:33:36 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Walk Softly, For a Dream is Born)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Petronski; dfwgator; armymarinemom; Khankrumthebulgar; mware; ...

REPUBLICANS ARE YOU LISTENING:

"Ratzinger also called demands for European "multiculturalism" as a "fleeing from what is one's own."

Get that O’Connor, Breyer, Souter, Kennedy Ginsberg- Let’s not see references to European Law in our Supreme Court decisions any more. We're Americans.

Tom Delay, the Hammer, are you listening:

“As prefect of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, he was the Vatican's iron hand.”

Hammer, stay true to your convictions- the heck with the media- the tried and sure road to ascendency!


44 posted on 04/19/2005 4:33:49 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
THE THEOLOGY OF JOSEPH RATZINGER
by Fr Aidan Nichols


Chapter XI: BACK TO FOUNDATIONS

45 posted on 04/19/2005 4:34:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
not all are Happy with the new Pope

Well, if this Protestant can judge Benedict by his enemies, he seems like an excellent choice.

Congratulations to all my Catholic brothers and sisters!

46 posted on 04/19/2005 4:37:38 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As my daddy would say, they should cut bait or fish. If you don't want to live like a catholic, go join Bishop Gene or someone else to your liking.


47 posted on 04/19/2005 4:38:51 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: onyx; Grampa Dave

fyi


48 posted on 04/19/2005 4:38:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Jim Noble

It is true, you can tell a lot about a man's character by his enemies...and it seems to me Pope Benedict has the right ones...


49 posted on 04/19/2005 4:39:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: HarleyLady27
Re # 4...

I Agree...

I might even come back.

50 posted on 04/19/2005 4:41:54 PM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: eastsider

What he said, if I recall, was that the self-indulgent choose Buddhism because they think it demands little of them, except a vague mysticism. The last thing they would want to do is to live the ascetic life of a Buddhist monk.


51 posted on 04/19/2005 4:41:58 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"He also shows no flexibility on the church's views on priestly celibacy, contraception and the ban on ordinations for women." IOW, if this Pope will not compromise the principles of The Church, he is not acceptable to the liberal members ... shades of democrats in the Senate and House!


52 posted on 04/19/2005 4:41:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: sirthomasthemore
More Info:

Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

53 posted on 04/19/2005 4:43:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Jim Noble

Well, if this Orthodox Christian can judge Benedict by his enemies, he seems like an excellent choice.


54 posted on 04/19/2005 4:54:05 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pope John Paul had his job to do. Pope Benedict now has his. The best that John Paul could do in his frail physical condition toward the end of his life and reign was to hold the socialist left Catholics in check. Pope Benedict will be pro active and say and do the hard things necessary to bring the focus of the Catholic church back to the spiritual realm which is the reason it exists. The humanist American Catholics have had their way for over 40 years and have brought shame and disgust upon the clergy and distrust upon the church in general. I also would not bet on a short life for this pope. He is German after all. A hardy breed that has a temperament to withstand vitriol from some of his own strayed flock as well as others outside the church. He will be swamped with prayers for his success and support from millions of souls who realize the need for strong spiritual leadership. Pope Benedict is the right man for the times and I thank God that he has been chosen as the new leader of the Catholic church.
55 posted on 04/19/2005 4:57:07 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: RobbyS

Thank you, sir. I rest my case.


56 posted on 04/19/2005 5:01:20 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Jim Noble

You summed up one of my favorite summations when liberals start whining and complaining about someone:

"Well, if this Protestant can judge Benedict by his enemies, he seems like an excellent choice."

If the MSM mediots and left wingers around the world dislike this new Pope, he is probably an excellent choice for the Catholics and the rest of us.


57 posted on 04/19/2005 5:13:02 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

Look, I'm not saying Law is without fault but I get sick of everything beinbg dumped on him, and nothing on The 'Very reverend' Cardinal Mahoney, Archbishop of Los Angeles.


58 posted on 04/19/2005 5:15:44 PM PDT by MarylandPines (Pro Deo et patria)
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To: HarleyLady27; big'ol_freeper
The Libs are unhappy:

Liberal US catholics dismayed at choice of Pope

59 posted on 04/19/2005 5:30:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as for certain and which has as its highest goal one's own ego and one's own desires," he said Monday in a pre-conclave Mass in memory of John Paul. The church, he insisted, must defend itself against threats such as "radical individualism" and "vague religious mysticism."

Spot on.

Must be my German genes speaking.

60 posted on 04/19/2005 5:45:40 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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