[stan the beaver]

I never said he was heading up the Gestapo. I'm just saying that to desert, without even waiting to see combat, is a wee bit dishonourable.

[Penfold]

Well, let's think about it for a moment...

1)your a young german man,
2)your conscripted into army fighting a war you're fundamentally opposed to that runs contrary to your devout beliefs,
3) the war is being waged by a fundamentally anti-christian Neo-Nazi party,
4) you don't particularly want to kill people and certainly not on grounds that you consider an abhorence to moral decency...

Erm... Yep. You're right. He should've stayed in the army and blasted a few people to smithereens. Sorry.

[fight_truth_decay]

He spent a few months in an anti-aircraft battalion in Munich and then deserted. His family was anti-Nazi.

Yes, a Nazi, at the time, might conclude his flight to be dishonorable..I find him most honorable for his decision, especially at that age.

[Sir Gawain]

I never said he was heading up the Gestapo. I'm just saying that to desert, without even waiting to see combat, is a wee bit dishonourable.

Dishonorable for deserting the Nazis? Give me a break.

[fight_truth_decay]

The Nazi solicited from its youth the desire to distinguish itself, to accomplish exploits beyond the common order and beyond nature. The Nazi Party, thanks to the young men of the S.S., of the S.D., and of the Gestapo, would accomplish in the field of criminality what no other sane person could imagine

That's honorable to you?