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Poland Marks Ghetto Uprising Anniversary
Gadsden Times ^ | April 19. 2005 | YURAS KARMANAU

Posted on 04/19/2005 11:06:18 AM PDT by lizol

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1 posted on 04/19/2005 11:06:27 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

The warsaw ghetto uprising is an important lesson on why citizens should stay armed. Unfortunately, the only members of the Jewish community that remember the lesson are in Israel or members of JPFO. Most american Jews go along with the liberal mantra that only the government should have guns.


2 posted on 04/19/2005 11:10:18 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: IAF ThunderPilot; dervish

Ping


3 posted on 04/19/2005 11:16:26 AM PDT by lizol
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A story of true heroism! The fact that basically being unarmed and having what few weapons available they were
still held off a trained military force is amazing.


4 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:14 AM PDT by beltfed308
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To: flashbunny

here here, well said


5 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:18 AM PDT by ONTHEFIFTY
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To: conshack; MassachusettsGOP; sergey1973; rasblue; Somewhat Centrist; jdm; Diocletian; ishmac; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

6 posted on 04/19/2005 11:17:32 AM PDT by lizol
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To: beltfed308

amen


7 posted on 04/19/2005 11:20:21 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: lizol

A story of true heroism! The fact that basically being unarmed and having what few weapons available they were
still able to hold off a trained military force is amazing.


8 posted on 04/19/2005 11:37:56 AM PDT by beltfed308
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
9 posted on 04/19/2005 11:38:08 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: lizol

I didn't learn about the Warsaw ghetto uprising until I was an adult. It's an inspiration to us all (and a good lesson for the future).


10 posted on 04/19/2005 11:38:26 AM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: lizol

Now wait a minute, wait a minute, there.

Warsaw's 400,000 Jews was the largest Jewish community in Europe before the Germans came?

I thought Ukraine had the largest number of Jews in all of Europe, although for practical reasons, many of them during totalitarian times disguised their religion and origin.


11 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:28 PM PDT by franksolich (oftentimes aimed at, but never shot)
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FOREVER FAME TO THESE HEROES!!!

Fighting a lost battle against inhuman oppressor they won their honor and immortal legend.

Brave spirit of the Ghetto Uprising of 1943 inspired the spirit of Warsaw Uprising in the following year.
12 posted on 04/19/2005 12:17:32 PM PDT by twinself
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To: lizol; sergey1973; Grzegorz; twinself; Lukasz

By the way, are there any authentic Ukrainians actually in Ukraine, on the Eastern European ping list?

Our good and esteemed friend (and I mean that sincerely) is Ukrainian, but takes the side of the Russians.

We need someone on Free Republic who is an authentic Ukrainian actually in Ukraine, to help illuminate us.


13 posted on 04/19/2005 12:20:29 PM PDT by franksolich (oftentimes aimed at, but never shot)
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largest Jewish community in Europe

It relates to one place, one city (Warsaw) - not the entire country. Altogether there lived more than 3 milions Jewish people in pre-war Poland. And Warsaw was the biggest "Jewish" city in pre-war Europe.

Just like today's Chicago is the second biggest "Polish" city after Warsaw.
14 posted on 04/19/2005 12:22:49 PM PDT by lizol
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I wondered if that is what the news article meant--the "largest concentration of Jews"--but was not sure.

When things get translated, something gets lost, as I very well and sadly know, from the Norway ping list.


15 posted on 04/19/2005 12:24:01 PM PDT by franksolich (oftentimes aimed at, but never shot)
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Our good and esteemed friend (and I mean that sincerely) is Ukrainian, but takes the side of the Russians.

You mean Sergey?
I think he's Russian, but had lived in Ukraine for some time.
16 posted on 04/19/2005 12:28:15 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Well, the deal is, partner, my "acquaintance" with people from Poland, from Slovakia, from the Czech Republic, from Hungary, from Romania, from Croatia, from Serbia, &c., &c., &c., is all "academic," whereas I lived submerged with the Ukrainians and got to know them in real life.

As far as I am concerned, looking at it from a distance, the Poles, the Croats, the Serbs, &c., &c., &c., are all great, wonderful, fantastic people; delightful people with whom one seeks no argument.

But on my personal level, while I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration and affection for Ukraine and the Ukrainians, because I know them rather better, I would like more of them to be aware of the Eastern European ping list.


17 posted on 04/19/2005 12:34:53 PM PDT by franksolich (oftentimes aimed at, but never shot)
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To: lizol

Thanks for posting this article, lizol--the Warsaw Ghetto uprising was an astonishing act of heroism against all the odds. The heroic Polish Jews deserve to be remembered for ages and serve as an inspiration to all.


18 posted on 04/19/2005 12:35:16 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: franksolich

I have no idea if anyone on the Eastern European Ping list is Ukrainian, or has Ukrainian roots. I don't remember.


19 posted on 04/19/2005 12:46:01 PM PDT by lizol
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To: franksolich; lizol

Frank, my friend. I didn't "take side of Russians [which ones to be exact -:)? ]" when I told you who was living in present-day Ukraine between 500 BC--500 AD. Back then there was neither Ukraine, nor Russia. It was populated by now gone tribes (Scythians, Khazars, etc.) Both Russia and Ukraine trace their roots in Kievan Rus which started with Vikings appearing in East Slav lands in 9th Century A.D.

Anyway, I don't want to move away from the main theme. I think the facts in the article about Jewish community numbers are correct. Warsaw was the city with the largest Jewish Community in Europe. I don't think any other city (incl. cities in then Soviet Ukraine) had such large Jewish communities although I could be mistaken.

lizol

I'm an originally a Russian from Ukraine (or Russian Ukrainian if you will)--now American. Mother is ethnic Russian from Russia proper, Father is a Russianized Ukrainian Jew originally from Eastern Ukraine. Born and grew up predominantly in Western Ukraine, city of Lviv (aka, Lvov, Lwow, Lemberg). A typical child of fmr. USSR -:))))


20 posted on 04/19/2005 12:47:19 PM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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