Posted on 04/19/2005 10:42:12 AM PDT by Bella_Bru
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A rabbi wearing a yarmulke and a man wearing swastikas got into a fight at Kansas City International Airport Sunday evening.
According to a police report, Rabbi David Fine, 36, of Overland Park, was in the KCI terminal when he commented to Steven T. Boswell, 30, of Olathe, about a large swastika logo on his shirt and his swastika necklace.
Fine told Boswell that he should be ashamed of himself, and Boswell responded by calling the rabbi inhuman, the police report stated.
The rabbi allegedly threw a cup of coffee in Boswell's face and punched him. Boswell told police he then repeatedly punched Fine in the head.
Both men were handcuffed and charged with disorderly conduct. They refused medical attention.
The responding officer said Fine had some small bumps on his head and Boswell had coffee stains on his clothing.
Both men are scheduled to appear in court on June 22.
That's a good point. We expect better behavior from a man of God. He shouldn't have lowered himself to the level of the filthy little Nazi vermin.
Three times he could've walked away.
Jews tried that "walking away" and ignoring the idiot thingy back in the 1930's. But at least they didn't break any laws.
Breaking laws is naughty. Mustn't break laws! Do not throw hot coffee at naughty nazi, that is not legal!
Damn! I just went back and got my second coffee from the cyber-Starbucks.
"I can very easily see how a rabbi could punch this little Hitler youth in the snotbox. Because even good people can take only so much."
I'd agree with this if it were such that the Nazi were provoking the Rabbi - it just doesn't seem that way based on what we know so far. The MSM is no friend of Nazis so when they do present info that leans in the idiots favor I tend to think they may be downplaying it.
And your question:
"Whats the difference between the Goebbels inspired Nazi slander movies of the 1930's and the medievel Europeans slaughtering Jews because they did not die of the plague because they kept Kosher dietary laws?"
None.
"Nazism is the current manifestation..."
I disagree. LIBERALISM is the current manifestation of elitist anti-Semitism. Naziism has been defeated. Communism is coming close to defeat but we still have the mental disorder of liberalism to deal with.
One down, two to go.
I'm not Jewish, but I am also sick to death of anti-Jewish hatred masquerading as 'news' in the MSM. I'm sick of anti-Zionism as well. Jews have recovered their homeland and good for them.
My own idea for a motto for Israel would be...
"No retreat, no surrender!"
'Never Again!' has been the mantra since WW2 but it is a mantra that is in some ways defeatist. It should be remembered what happened in the past but it is also time to look forward to the future.
A strong Israel need not worry about 'Never Again!'.
Sounds like the rabbi got the worst of it.
Sounds like the rabbi got the worst of it.
Neither did we! It was just a friendly fire incident.
Alouette,
This is a confrontation bewteen two people in an airport. It is not a confrontation of two ideologies. We already fought that war and we won it. The Nazis lost.
As I'd said before I doubt I'd really care too much if this were a hothead from the ADL chasing after and assaulting a Nazi. I'd still want the ADL kid to face punishment because a civil society does not condone public assaults on people.
But I doubt I'd care much past that.
This bothers me because a Rabbi went out of his way to start a fight with a man who was not fighting until he was attacked.
The Rabbi had a right to say his peace, I suppose, about the crap the idiot was wearing. Then he needed to turn around and walk away. Or call the airport security if the Nazi bum was bugging him.
As distateful as the Nazi jerk is, it is the Rabbi who crossed a line here. Not just any Jewish guy with a bad temper, a Rabbi.
I'm a hothead. I have a BAD temper. I'm also big enough at 6'6" and 260lbs to back it up with a lot of hurt. I'm not anywhere near being a holy man yet I control myself because I can easily kill most people I meet if I lose control.
>>>> I can control myself better than a Rabbi. <<<<
Sorry, but that statement is just wrong.
And true.
Do you get my point here?
Yeah, it is.
I see Rabbi Fine is a macher; he was at the White House Chanukah party. That was not an easy ticket to score.
Again, you know things I don't, I only have the articles to rely on.
From those, I see the Rabbi commented on the t-shirt he should be ashamed of himself for wearing those symbols in public which led to more words. Ten minutes elapsed, imo significant as they persumably separated, and a second confrontation occured which led to the coffee throwing. It's not at all clear to me that he could've walked away and imo He walked up to me and got in my face," Fine said. "I was scared for my physical safety, referring to the 2nd confrontation, tells me if anyone was stalking, it was the nazi. Like I said, I can't make a judgement till I know more facts. And my guess, Boswell at age 30 likely doesn't have pimples, nor does Jacques Pluss for that matter.
Bella_Bru, It's simple, people can't assault others in America because they wear symbols. The Rabbi was wrong.
Check out what happens to people when they assault others.
To a reasonable person the NRA doesn't equate with National Socialism, but that aside, what was in your mind that made you go up to that liberal jackass ten minutes after the first comment? If not a confrontation, what?
No worries...I tend to get on the defensive right away because everyone just assumes if you're Jewish, your values went out the window long ago, which simply isn't the case. There are many people out there that claim to be Jewish but go against every aspect of the religion - and unfortunately they are the face of Judaism to most non-Jews.
As an aside, can you think of a WORSE place for a confrontation?
This bothers me because a Rabbi went out of his way to start a fight with a man who was not fighting until he was attacked.
Read the articles. There's not a lot of info there, but there were two incidents, ten minutes apart, and it doesn't appear as though the Rabbi was the one seeking out the second confrontation
"I was scared for my physical safety"
If true, he could've called for help. Lord knows that there are more cops than sense in airports these days.
If he'd really wanted to protect himself and screw the Nazi over all he had to do (bearing in mind he was at an airport) is point at the Nazi and scream, "He might have a gun!"
75 cops would've appeared out of nowhere, blew the hell out of the Nazi and then asked the Rabbi if he was okay while they planted a drop-gun on the Nazi to make the story stick.
I exaggerate, of course.
But when have you been in airport lately when a cop wasn't within earshot?
Sorry. The Rabbi had better options than throwing coffee in the guys' face and then apparently sucker-punching him while the Nazi has the coffee in his face.
That's what I would have done.
Your definition of "holy man" is different from mine. A "holy man" (which I think in terms of being on the stature of a Hasidic Rebbe, not some run-of-the-mill pulpit shukler in Kansas City) is not required to be a pacifist.
Now HERE is a Holy Man
That doesn't happen, does it? :>)
I think most of them missed this part, too.
Fine said that confrontation happened about 10 minutes after he first encountered Boswell.
"He walked up to me and got in my face," Fine said. "I was scared for my physical safety."
It doesn't sound like a case of an offended rabi seeking a confrontation, but rather of a skinhead seeking to intimidate a rabi, and getting what he deserved.
I have no doubt that had the rabi not been wearing his yarmulke, there would not have been an incident; the skinhead targetted him visually. A hate crime on the part of the Nazi.
"I totally sympathize with the Rabbi, but in the end he has made Jews look bad and he has made a "hero" out of this jerk to his sycophants."
I don't know. Maybe Jews need to look "bad" in just this don't mess with me kind of way.
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