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To: PeterFinn
A Rabbi, a holy man

Your definition of "holy man" is different from mine. A "holy man" (which I think in terms of being on the stature of a Hasidic Rebbe, not some run-of-the-mill pulpit shukler in Kansas City) is not required to be a pacifist.

Now HERE is a Holy Man


297 posted on 04/19/2005 3:42:25 PM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Alouette

A 'holy man' by my definition means someone who is better than me in every imaginable way who is also an expression of God's Will in his daily behaviors.

Anyone in clerical leadership, including laity, should be an example to the community at large because, good or bad, they ARE an example to the community at large. Svigdor Nebenzahl, chief rabbi of the Old City of Jerusalem, would not have behaved as such.


302 posted on 04/19/2005 4:33:53 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: Alouette; PeterFinn

The Hasmoneans/Maccabees were holy men and warriors. That is a Jewish tradition from the time of Joshua. The concept of holy and pacifist is not a Jewish one.


304 posted on 04/19/2005 4:52:41 PM PDT by dervish (Let Europe pay for NATO)
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