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Rabbi, Man Wearing Swastika Trade Blows At Airport
The Pittsburgh Channel ^ | 4/19/05

Posted on 04/19/2005 10:42:12 AM PDT by Bella_Bru

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A rabbi wearing a yarmulke and a man wearing swastikas got into a fight at Kansas City International Airport Sunday evening.

According to a police report, Rabbi David Fine, 36, of Overland Park, was in the KCI terminal when he commented to Steven T. Boswell, 30, of Olathe, about a large swastika logo on his shirt and his swastika necklace.

Fine told Boswell that he should be ashamed of himself, and Boswell responded by calling the rabbi inhuman, the police report stated.

The rabbi allegedly threw a cup of coffee in Boswell's face and punched him. Boswell told police he then repeatedly punched Fine in the head.

Both men were handcuffed and charged with disorderly conduct. They refused medical attention.

The responding officer said Fine had some small bumps on his head and Boswell had coffee stains on his clothing.

Both men are scheduled to appear in court on June 22.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: lolol; neonazis
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To: Bella_Bru
Ahhh...that's right. The Nazis are a well respected party in France.

Every time they visit, the French raise both hands in salute.

161 posted on 04/19/2005 11:54:17 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You would have to double your IQ to be stupid. " --zip)
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To: LetsRok
I think you got it backwards. The rabbi is the one who should have gotten his butt kicked. He has no right to physically attack a person for displaying a message that he does not agree with.

I don't think I got it backwards at all.

162 posted on 04/19/2005 11:55:42 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ariamne

Are you really trying to say that of the 40 million some American children aborted since Roe v Wade, none of them were Jewish? I didn't think so. Are you also trying to say that of the 100s of people in a PVS that are euthanized each year in America, none of them are Jewish? I didn't think so. Your comments are childish. Do try to respond with something related to reality.


163 posted on 04/19/2005 11:55:48 AM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: Vicomte de Valmont

Your protected speech rights does't protect you from getting punched out anymore than it protects you from being sued, sometimes.


164 posted on 04/19/2005 11:56:47 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Have the Democrats,our RINOs and their MSM ever met a skunk too stinking to snuggle up to?)
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To: Sprite518

"Just commenting on your tag line.. Legal to whom? Hitler and the Nazis?"

Exactly. They had the courts and the lawyers to say that this was all perfectly legal. Many of those judges were executed after the war and for good reason.

Morality must ALWAYS trump the law, the lawmakers, the law enforcers, the judges, the juries, the lawyers...all of it.

Who's to say what atrocities could be "legal" in the future?

Euthanasia is now "legal" in this country so we are now one step down the same path trod by Nazi Germany.

So I like to remind all of those FOOLS who said that no one had a right to apply morality to the Terri Schiavo murder-by-judge that the Holocaust was just as legal as the murder of Terri Schiavo.


166 posted on 04/19/2005 11:58:13 AM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: af_vet_1981

I've reported abuse on the really vile comments here, and I'm glad to see them removed. Some of these posters could be DUmmies looking to trash the site.

Unfortunately, most are probably real anti-semites who would be much more comfortable with some nazi pig's web site, but choose to be associated with a respected high-profile site, more's the pity.

You are a good man, af_vet_1981.


167 posted on 04/19/2005 12:00:52 PM PDT by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: TheDon; ariamne; admin
"Really? I'm sure they are aborting their own children and killing off their relatives who are in a PVS. So much for Never Again!"

That's what Jews do, everyone knows that. I thought you put it much more succinctly in the comment that was pulled.

Funny, a Nazi incident, and some folk are thinking Jew=abortion, Jews=euthanasia. Jews just suck don't they?

168 posted on 04/19/2005 12:02:11 PM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: TheDon

Don't be too hard on those less less gifted as writers than yourself, or less grounded in reality than you, Mr. Don.

We will just ignore everyone elses post and trust your's, now that we understand how wise and wonderful you are.


169 posted on 04/19/2005 12:02:39 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Have the Democrats,our RINOs and their MSM ever met a skunk too stinking to snuggle up to?)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Exactly.

This is what the morons in Hollywood don't get. You are free to say or express anything you want. You are required to accept the consequences of what you say or express. They always complain when people take them to task for their comments.

If the consequences of wearing Nazi paraphernalia in public are an ass kicking then so be it.
170 posted on 04/19/2005 12:02:49 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Ecc 10:2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.)
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To: AppyPappy
If you have ever visited a Nazi website, you know they are perfectly willing to fire up the ovens again.

Only on their websites.

The only thing stopping them is their numbers.

Yeah, that's a pretty big obstacle -- since the sum total of people actually interested in doing this is in the dozens, and those are split up into a bunch of competing and warring factions. And the average age of "members" is *very* young, and the average length of time "members" stay involved in a group is *very* short.

I got a good laugh a couple of years ago, poking around one of these websites (I think it was Matt Hale's "church"). It rambled on and on about the mighty Aryan race, and how members must go about fulfilling their destiny as Aryans. A lengthy portion was devoted to the importance of good nutrition -- stuff about lots of fresh vegetables and whole grains, avoid meat and alcohol, etc. -- and how this is such an important part of being a mighty Aryan, so you can be strong and fight for the great cause, and exterminate the "mud people". Then towards the end, when the direct pitch to join up was being made, there was a barrage of disclaimers about how you didn't really have to do all this stuff right away, and the vegetables stuff was just an "ideal" but you can really eat whatever you want. They can't even get guys to give up their Bic Macs and French fries and beer for the "cause". Next to none of the guys hanging out with these groups are willing to risk even a brief trip to the slammer for the "cause".

171 posted on 04/19/2005 12:03:19 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ariamne; af_vet_1981

As you'll note, once they're pulled, the same posters reword them, pretending the initial intent never existed. Personally I think they should be left up, at least as long as the thread is active.


172 posted on 04/19/2005 12:03:41 PM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: wtc911
Swastikas are not prima facie fighting words. Had they been so, the march in Sokie, Illinois would not have been allowed to go on.

I have been yelled at in public for wearing apparel that identified me as a supporter of the US Military and a member of the military industrial complex. At the time I hoped the weenie would throw a punch or something to justify a riposte followed by charging him with assault and battery.

All that said, I have no problem with the confrontation (free speech at its finest for both of them) until the Rabbi got violent. He should have some jail time coming or at least some serious legal bills.
173 posted on 04/19/2005 12:03:45 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: LetsRok

He has no right to physically attack a person for displaying a message that he does not agree with.
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It's not just a "message". It's a clear insult to people and you know it. Americans died to prevent that "message" from away our freedom. Cheers for the Rabbi, and boo hoo for the dirty little nazi creep.


174 posted on 04/19/2005 12:04:13 PM PDT by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Never underestimate the stupidity of people gathered into large groups. That's how Hitler came to power.


175 posted on 04/19/2005 12:05:18 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: PeterFinn
See #46.

Fine said that confrontation happened about 10 minutes after he first encountered Boswell.

"He walked up to me and got in my face," Fine said. "I was scared for my physical safety."

I'll take Rabbi Fine's side of the story over some neo-Nazi's.

Boswell was at the airport dropping off one of the people who spoke at a National Socialist Movement convention in Kansas City during the weekend, while Fine was catching a flight to New York.

Boswell was not catching a flight. He was dropping off someone who was on a flight. Why did Boswell hang around for 10 minutes after first encountering Fine, and then get in his face?

176 posted on 04/19/2005 12:05:38 PM PDT by auboy (Snap to, spineless RINOs. Even Barney Fyffe had one bullet.)
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To: ariamne

"By the way, your tag line is really revolting."

Please see post #166.


177 posted on 04/19/2005 12:06:32 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: Starwolf

Amazing. We have become a nation of sheep.


178 posted on 04/19/2005 12:06:37 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Starwolf
Swastikas are not prima facie fighting words. Had they been so, the march in Sokie, Illinois would not have been allowed to go on.

Amidst massive police presence, since common sense dictated that they were essentially fighting words.

179 posted on 04/19/2005 12:08:03 PM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: Starwolf

I think the Skinhead owes the Rabbi a cup of coffee.


180 posted on 04/19/2005 12:08:48 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Have the Democrats,our RINOs and their MSM ever met a skunk too stinking to snuggle up to?)
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