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Government Upgrading Investigation of GM Pickups
AP ^ | 4-18-2005 | Ken Thomas

Posted on 04/18/2005 5:20:58 PM PDT by Cagey

WASHINGTON (AP) - The government has upgraded its investigation into reports that tailgates are falling off the back of some General Motors Corp. pickup trucks without warning.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Monday said it was reviewing tailgate support cables installed in 1998-2004 model years of the Chevrolet Sonoma and S10 pickups and the 1998, 1999 and part of the 2000 model years of the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra.

GM officials said the upgraded investigation covered 3.1 million vehicles.

It advances an investigation, which was opened in February 2004, of the Sierra from model years 1999-2002; the Silverado from model years 1999-2003; the 2002 Cadillac truck and the 2002 Chevrolet Avalanche.

NHTSA said consumers have reported about 50 injuries due to the alleged defect, which involves the breaking of the support cables because of metal fatigue, leading to the separation of the tailgate.

GM spokesman Alan Adler said the company was cooperating with investigators. He noted that for the smaller pickups, the Sonoma and the S10, "those trucks are used for very different purposes and we have had comparatively fewer number of warranty claims or complaints."

GM announced a recall of 4 million 2000-2004 pickups in March 2004 because of breaking tailgates. The recall involved 2000-04 Chevrolet Silverados and GMC Sierras built between October 1999 and October 2003. Some 2002-04 Chevrolet Avalanche and Cadillac Escalade EXT trucks built between March 2001 and October 2003 were also recalled.

Adler said replacement parts for the vehicles became available in September 2004 and about 40 percent of the recalled vehicles have been fixed. GM has sent reminders to vehicle owners who have not yet had their trucks repaired every two months.

NHTSA investigations sometimes lead to vehicle recalls.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: generalmotors; pickuptrucks
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....tailgates are falling off the back of some General Motors Corp. pickup trucks without warning.

Without warning! Be careful who you're driving behind.

1 posted on 04/18/2005 5:20:58 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey

I see a lot of pickup truck owners, A LOT, that should not own trucks. They have no knowledge of trailering, hauling, securing cargo. I've seen trucks literally sitting on the stops towing trailers too heavy and never meant to be towing such capacity. I've seen stuff fall out the back because it's not secured.


2 posted on 04/18/2005 5:24:36 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: Cagey

I'm a Ford truck man, that's all I drive...


3 posted on 04/18/2005 5:29:27 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Cagey
GM has sent reminders to vehicle owners who have not yet had their trucks repaired every two months.

I hope the writer made a mistake here. Do you really have to bring in a GM truck for repairs every 2 months? Even their cars are slightly more reliable than that, if you remember to add a quart of oil every week or two.

4 posted on 04/18/2005 5:29:57 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Cagey

My 2003 Avalanche was recalled for this.

The support cables would only break when down and under load. Mine did not break.

I would guess they were flexing beyond the point of recoverable elasticity with frequent use and simply broke much like you can break a wire hanger by bending in the same place repeatedly.


5 posted on 04/18/2005 5:33:51 PM PDT by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Yes, but on GMs, the door and tailgate hinges are *glued* onto the body after 1999. And, of course, they used "industrial adhesive" from the lowest bidder with little thought for quality. That's why the tailgate is falling off after the latch fails and the support cables separate.

If you don't believe me, go look at any 99-02 GM full-size truck, and look for bolts on the hinges where they meet the body. You won't find any.


6 posted on 04/18/2005 5:36:55 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: IamConservative

I have a 2001 Silverado and I took it in for the cable replacement. I don't haul a lot with it either. I've really enjoyed driving it.


7 posted on 04/18/2005 5:38:16 PM PDT by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Cagey
NHTSA said consumers have reported about 50 injuries due to the alleged defect, which involves the breaking of the support cables because of metal fatigue, leading to the separation of the tailgate.

It’s been years since I owned a Chevy or GM… anyhow, whatever happened to the way tailgates used to be put on? There were chains/hooks on the step-sides and a couple of links on the fleet-sides.

You couldn’t just drop the tailgate to get it to come off in any event – it usually involved dropping the tailgate to a certain angle and pulling it out, or bending the links “backwards” and removing them, then lowering the tailgate to a certain angle and pulling it out.

Either way, no way (IMO) that a tailgate could just “fall off” by accident. Having said that, the last pickup I had was a Nissan and that was 1990. I guess they changed things for some reason.

8 posted on 04/18/2005 5:39:25 PM PDT by Who dat?
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That's sad if they are "glueing" parts on to a car. I guess the engineer has only played with toy models. In the real world, glue won't work ;)


9 posted on 04/18/2005 5:39:41 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: Cagey

This article is misleading. The cables that hold the tailgate flat when opened are breaking making the tailgate fall down onto the bumper. The tailgate does not fall off the truck. The replacement cables are made of stainless steel. I've had mine replaced.


10 posted on 04/18/2005 5:40:04 PM PDT by kempo
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Almost every post 99 GM design has the door hinges glued onto the body. I don't think the GTOs or Cadillacs do that, though.


11 posted on 04/18/2005 5:46:25 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I guess sometimes it's better to stick with the OLD school stuff. :)


12 posted on 04/18/2005 5:50:06 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Or at least cars that aren't designed mostly by beancounters.


13 posted on 04/18/2005 5:53:00 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I love gm/chevy trucks. I've got a 63 myself and it's heavier duty truck. It's still rock solid with the original motor ~73K, it's actually all original. :)


14 posted on 04/18/2005 5:55:10 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: Cagey
I'll bet you dollars to donuts, no gate that was latched fell off.

I've seen guys try to cram two cubic yards of gravel on a 1/2 ton truck.

15 posted on 04/18/2005 5:55:49 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: IamConservative
The cable anchor at the side mounts has a spring tab that keeps the anchor in place over the stepped pin; it is made this way so that one can depress the tabs, move the gate to a half-open position, remove both side cables and then lift the gate from the truck.

This design has been in use by G.M. for years; there are 6 major points for sudden failure. In all probability, some penny-pincher went to a smaller gauge somewhere to maintain profit.

Basically, I will stick to my original suspicion that stupidity remains supreme.

16 posted on 04/18/2005 6:01:58 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Old Professer

I bought about a half ton of sand last year and hauled it in my half ton, no problem. The man who loaded it for me told me that he had people coming in all the time telling him to fill it up. Meaning fill up the bed, level full.

Some people sure are clueless.


17 posted on 04/18/2005 6:03:30 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: kempo

Is it a wire rope failure (unraveling) or an anchor failure?


18 posted on 04/18/2005 6:04:10 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Graybeard58

2 Cubic yards goes about 4,000#, and it will fit in a 4X8 bed; a half yard won't look like much, but it is a good place to stop.


19 posted on 04/18/2005 6:07:07 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Cagey

Chevy recalled theirs already.

The problem is this:

The support cables were made of galvanized steel which, in extreme cases electrolyzed, weakened, and broke.

The replacement cables are stainless.

I have been extremely happy with my 2001 Silverado. I had the cables replaced when I received the manufacturer's letter but they were not corroded at all.


20 posted on 04/18/2005 6:16:20 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Liberalism is an Autoimmune Disease)
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