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IBM Signs $125 Million Deal To Build Nationwide Speed Trap
InformationWeek ^ | April 15, 2005 | George V. Hulme

Posted on 04/17/2005 2:46:01 PM PDT by Willie Green

In what is described as the largest telematics deal in history, IBM engineers will design an automobile-monitoring system and install a device in cars to track drivers in the United Arab Emirates.

(Excerpt) Read more at informationweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; privacy; rfid
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To: clyde asbury

I rented a car in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago. The contract stated that cars were equiped with GPS. That if the car was taken out of the agreed upon geographic limits, driven at excessive speeds, or other improper use of the vehicle occured, I would get popped $$ when I returned it.

Now it gets funny. First they said they wanted a $400 deposit attached to my VISA card. Then one said no, not needed. Because I was NOT a residence of Vegas. She said that The locals kept stealing the cars, but we visitors returned them.

Since were were driving out alone into the desert, I figured the GPS was great. We'd be found easily in case of trouble. Worng. I mentioned that when returning the car & the girl said, well, the GPS wasn't really in all the cars. Just some.


41 posted on 04/17/2005 7:45:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s
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To: SamAdams76
Laugh if you want but it's only a matter of time before this kind of nonsense hits American shores.

Well, when it does, that'll put an end to all the, "Why don't you geezers get the hell out of the left lane because it belongs to me" threads.

42 posted on 04/17/2005 8:11:39 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: GeekDejure
loose your right testicle...Ten MPH over the limit -- loose your head !!!

At least it's better than losing your head or testicle!

43 posted on 04/17/2005 10:19:46 PM PDT by The Grammarian ("Preaching is in the shadows. The world does not believe in it." --W.E. Sangster)
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To: GeekDejure

woman driving car=execution.


44 posted on 04/17/2005 10:24:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Willie Green

Sounds like it's time to ramp up production on the Prius and the Aveo...


45 posted on 04/17/2005 10:31:36 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: tahotdog

46 posted on 04/17/2005 10:35:50 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Man, I hate it when I'm worng...


48 posted on 04/17/2005 10:38:33 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Willie Green

Willie, I've always found your posts interesting and informative, but you are one depressing person! I really didn't want to know this. Thanks for posting it, though.


49 posted on 04/17/2005 10:38:43 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: FairOpinion

Back in 1994, I stopped to help a guy who's truck was broken down, and he told me that every car and truck built since 85 had a box on it that the government could shut it down if they wished. I thought he was a nut, but now nobody even raises an eyebrow when they mention it. Of course, you can check on some OnStar type systems by entering your vehicle code on the internet. I'm just glad they didn't have them when I was a kid.


50 posted on 04/17/2005 10:44:04 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: Husker24
IL is placing camera by interstate construction zones (lowered speed) to protect workers and the first violation is $375!
51 posted on 04/18/2005 12:28:40 AM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: diogenes ghost
For many years I did hi-tech work with/for the govt. I can tell you from experience that failed IT projects like the FAA or the TMS (taxation modernization) at the IRS are N O T the failure of the IT shops. Blame a combination of shifting funding, liquid specifications, political 'guidance', govt staff incompetance AND that fact that there are too many folks in govt who just don't want modernization to work.

I would guess that IBM was not the prime at the FAA -- that some beltway bandit/ women-minority-owned-consulting-integrator was the prime. They (the bandits) got paid anyway, and will be hired again.
52 posted on 04/18/2005 4:27:19 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Bobibutu; RFEngineer

American Express, Minneapolis circa 2000, American Express had signed off on a system image (they have to test extensively against their own software) sent the image to IBM to have it pushed to roughly a third of the machines.

Someone at IBM added an untested piece of software to the image when it was pushed to the computers. 1 third of the machines at American Express went down due to the addition of this piece of software.

IBM may make good, but they darn well make sure they get their pound of flesh.

As for you, Bobitutu, you obviously have no sense of humor, nor do you know a bit of hyperbole when you see it.


53 posted on 04/18/2005 5:44:11 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: FairOpinion
"But here in the US they are installing black boxes in cars, which keep track of your speed, etc. -- they aren't broadcasting it, just yet..."

Are the black boxes under warranty? Because if mine starts having problems I would sure feel safer knowing that I can get it fixed right away. I'd hate to think that someone wasn't able to track my whereabouts because I accidently pulled a wire while changing my oil or something...

54 posted on 04/18/2005 5:54:30 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: SamAdams76
"Laugh if you want but it's only a matter of time before this kind of nonsense hits American shores. In the not too distant future, U.S. motorists are going to have speeding tickets mailed to their homes on account of fully-automated speed traps that will photograph the license plates and drivers of vehicles exceeding the speed limits on our highways. Already, I am seeing videocams mounted on highway overpasses. It's coming..."

I was watching a report about Washington D.C. deploying radar traps. They have two mounted cameras at a couple of intersections and they also have two or three cameras mounted on unmarked police cars that move about the city.

As I watched these cameras flashing almost constantly, it dawned on me. The police officer does absolutely nothing but sit back in his car and nibble on his donuts. And what does that mean? The fact that the police officer does not have to move a muscle means that the days of +5 to 10 mph grace is over.

They used to not worry about the minor speeders because the time, cost and effort was not worth a measly $15 or $20 dollar ticket. Now, it will be quantity over quality. Set that radar gun to 35mph and just start clicking away. Delay the ticket issuance for 4 to 6 weeks so as to bag the same people early and often and then when things begin drying up in 2 or 3 months, move on to the next area.

What a great scam!

55 posted on 04/18/2005 6:15:56 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Old Professer

Nice, but you need to hire a plumber to work on it!


56 posted on 04/18/2005 6:26:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: BobL

It is happenning here.
Oregon is testing a system with gps in cars that tax by the mile while in Oregon. The gps is to tax only while in the state.
But that is just where it starts.
We still have a tax on phones from the Spanish American war of the 19th century.
Ca still has a sales tax from the earthquake years ago that was SUPPOSED to be taken off at the end of that year. I think it was 94 or something like that.
Once they get their greedy hands on a supply of our money it NEVER comes off.


57 posted on 06/05/2005 3:38:22 PM PDT by chuckwalla (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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