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Bizarre Incident on British Airways 0215 (Muslim Air Passenger Arrest on 4/5 on Boston-bound Flight)
Women's Wall Street.com ^ | 4/15/05 | Annie Jacobsen

Posted on 04/17/2005 6:18:03 AM PDT by jimbo123

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Related to KLM 685 incident on 4/8?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7529185/site/newsweek/

1 posted on 04/17/2005 6:18:05 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Mystery Flight (More info about 2 pass. of KLM flight on the no fly list)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1385295/posts


2 posted on 04/17/2005 6:24:53 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I've always been suspicious of the explanation of materials fatigue for the large commercial airline crash a week or two after 9/11 in NY. There was such a rush to report that it was an accident despite witness reports of a fire/explosion on the plane.`Maybe it was an accident, but the Feds have lost a lot of credibility with their zeal to report calming "news" and deemphasize anything that might be reported as terrorism.


3 posted on 04/17/2005 6:30:30 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: jimbo123
""Armed agents – and British cops don't carry weapons – came on board to remove a passenger who requested to get off?" "

The author of this article obviously hasn't been to England lately. British cops certainly do carry weapons now. As does airport security.

4 posted on 04/17/2005 6:36:18 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Truth29

FR picked up on this incident as it was happening. Interesting how the lamestream media has been keeping the BA 0215 incident quiet as more information on the KLM 0685 incident becomes available...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376647/posts?


5 posted on 04/17/2005 6:36:42 AM PDT by jimbo123
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If 9-11 had had only one plane successfully hitting its target, higher-ups would have told us it was just a bad accident.

But that pesky 2nd plane.....and then that 3rd one hitting the Pentagon...and that 4th one crashing in Pennsylvania....sure messed up the 'no sign of terrorism' mantra for that day.
6 posted on 04/17/2005 6:46:15 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: jimbo123
An amazing story. ..given the guns out. . .et al (and then allowing the passenger to retrieve his bag from the overhead; which seems to really contradict their own security measures).

It would make more sense; if these were in reality; contrived situtations; which in the end; are supposed to make passengers feel more safe by observing these people doing their job. ..whether they are - or not. Or. ..just as unlikely. . .'real life' rehearsal; ie. . .a 'Graduation requirement'. . .(!?)

Stretching on both here, of course. . .

More to the case and a reasonable truth; we can only assume, more is going on than know - and more than they want us to know. Probably, not good for business. . .but do hope for genuine intelligence, behind these decisions. . .

7 posted on 04/17/2005 6:47:52 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: jimbo123
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7529185/site/newsweek/

I fixed your link. Interesting article. Kind of scary.

8 posted on 04/17/2005 6:52:00 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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"He didn't put up a fuss of any kind. He looked startled but not totally shocked. He was pretty meek. He didn't make any sudden moves. …These guys with the guns were serious. The passenger got his bag out of the overhead cabin and left [the plane]."

They let him get his bag himself? I asked. (In the United States, TSA won't even let passengers touch their bags during pre-boarding searches, let alone when they're being escorted off a plane.)

John told me, "The guy said something like, 'can I get my bag out of the overhead?' and then he did. He kind of quietly gathered up his things and left. "

Sounds like they’re keeping it quit because they found nothing provable and just think it’s bad for business if this gets dramatized and widely reported. They probably also want to minimize accusations of over use of force or unfair profiling.

9 posted on 04/17/2005 6:58:40 AM PDT by elfman2 (@ copyright 2005)
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To: Truth29

The odd ones are easy to sort out:

The explanations are vague, often unbelievable.

And clincher is that no action is taken to ground that type of aircraft or install fixes. For example, center fuel tanks on 747s were NOT pumped full of nitrogen, nor are they now filled for all flights. Either a center fuel tank explosion is still possible, or it was never a problem in the fist place.

Airliners are STILL sitting ducks. The TSA was a useless waste of billions of dollars. And the travel experience could not suck more. (And yet, every time I say that, the airlines prove me wrong.)


10 posted on 04/17/2005 7:00:39 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Truth29

The tail was made of composite materials - high tech reinforced plastic, not metal. Still suspecious though.


11 posted on 04/17/2005 7:03:39 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


12 posted on 04/17/2005 7:05:04 AM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: jimbo123

There's always the possibility that Annie Jacobsen has found a way to make money out of scare tactics. Consider the following:

***Since when does a passenger changing his mind about flying -- which happens a lot -- require an armed escort off the plane? And why did the airline provide a different plane for the flight? ***

An obvious explanation for the above is that the passenger might have planted an explosive device on the plane and then asked to be allowed to leave with the excuse of being "nervous." The authorities could not take a chance, and so they took him from the plane and checked his credentials. They also checked the plane and, in addition, ordered a new plane for the passengers. They were being very careful.

Since the passenger checked out to be clean, they found no reason to say anything but that he wanted to leave the plane.


13 posted on 04/17/2005 7:24:14 AM PDT by kitkat
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How do you know the passenger was "checked out" and was "clean"?


14 posted on 04/17/2005 7:25:12 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: TomGuy
..sure messed up the 'no sign of terrorism' mantra for that day

...and remember, the liberals *itching after 9/11, "that Bubba didn't, Have his chance @ " 'greatness' "...Sure yah did, Bubba...w/ "Blue Dress" Lewinsky.

15 posted on 04/17/2005 7:27:07 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: TomGuy
Don't forget TWA Flight 800. There are too many unanswered questions & witness discrepancies from the official line.
16 posted on 04/17/2005 7:53:51 AM PDT by Apercu ("Rep ipsa loquitor")
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To: TomGuy
If 9-11 had had only one plane successfully hitting its target, higher-ups would have told us it was just a bad accident.

How right you are. I've always had my suspicions about the 'investigation' of TWA 800.

17 posted on 04/17/2005 8:01:15 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: jimbo123

Nothing to see here, move along™...

Bump


18 posted on 04/17/2005 8:02:31 AM PDT by null and void (RFID/0110 0110 0110 - It's all in the wrist™...)
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To: null and void

Right, nothing to see here. Move along and don't forget to buy a refrigerator.


19 posted on 04/17/2005 8:07:01 AM PDT by hershey
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To: TomGuy
If 9-11 had had only one plane successfully hitting its target, higher-ups would have told us it was just a bad accident.

85% correct. Here's the corrected version:

If 9-11 had had only one plane successfully hitting its target, higher-ups our betters would have told us it was just a bad accident.

[Whats worse we, for the most part, would have believed it!]

20 posted on 04/17/2005 8:07:29 AM PDT by null and void (RFID/0110 0110 0110 - It's all in the wrist™...)
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