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'Freak' wave rocks cruise (70-footer hits N.Y.-bound ship)
ny daily news ^ | 4/17/05 | JONATHAN LEMIRE

Posted on 04/17/2005 4:50:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase

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To: Dutch Boy
So where did the 70 foot wave go? Did it hit shore somewhere?

Rogue storm waves only last for a few seconds; they're caused by several normal storm waves that happen to get "in synch" for a brief period of time.

21 posted on 04/17/2005 5:17:30 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Dutch Boy
So where did the 70 foot wave go? Did it hit shore somewhere?

I have no idea! Where does it go? Just keep rolling on until it hits a shore somewhere? Maybe someone can answer that. Maybe it calms down on it's own. I truly don't know where a wave of that magnitude ends up.

22 posted on 04/17/2005 5:17:40 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Rebelbase

Quite a proud ship to have survived a 70-foot wave. I bet its architect must feel ten feet tall today!


23 posted on 04/17/2005 5:19:03 AM PDT by Graymatter (a Terri Schiavo Republican)
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To: Rebelbase
The low pressure caused all that.

Thank you Rebel.  Like the one poster ask......where on earth does a wave like that end up?  Does it just fizzle out or what? 

24 posted on 04/17/2005 5:19:17 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Good Lord I can smell him.............

25 posted on 04/17/2005 5:19:59 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: porte des morts
More typically they will be offered a free cruise.

I would be interested in knowing why there was no attempt at all to get out of harms way. These are not 10 knot ships anymore, they move pretty good and have exceptional weather info. I doubt if this entire storm system just came out of no-where. Of course there is lots of pressure on the captain not to miss the deadline for the next cruise. Most ships are only in port for hours before they start the next cruise.
26 posted on 04/17/2005 5:20:04 AM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: Strategerist
The weird thing about Tsunamis is that there weren't any large long-range tsunamis for 40 years from 1964 to 2004; normally there should have been one every 10 years.

I couldn't believe the devastation.  I can still see the photos in my mind's eye.  Just sickening.  And frightening. 

27 posted on 04/17/2005 5:21:27 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Rebelbase
Norwegian Dawn


28 posted on 04/17/2005 5:21:57 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Didn't this happen to the QE2 about a year ago, and didn't they see it coming? Caught it on RADAR as I recall. Wonder why this one sneaked up on them?

A partial refund for a freak sea--wow, what an age we live in. Someone must ALWAYS pay.


29 posted on 04/17/2005 5:22:48 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: SheLion
Click here for more on rogue waves :)
30 posted on 04/17/2005 5:23:43 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

Other contributing factor can be a strong current; Gulf Stream fits the bill, particularly if winds are against the current.

The most rogue waves in the world are between Madagascar and South Africa in the Agulhas current, which is even faster than the Gulf Stream.


31 posted on 04/17/2005 5:25:23 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Rebelbase

I get seasick on the local riverboats in Pittsburgh! I give my mother credit for enduring 3 transatlantic boat trips in the 1950's&60's. A few months ago, a large cruise ship was disabled near Hawaii. There were a bunch of Pitt students on it attending "Semester at Sea". I think think were quite a few injuries on that ship.


32 posted on 04/17/2005 5:25:30 AM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: Strategerist

Can these things be seen on radar? Not in time to turn the ship probably, but in time to tell folks to brace?


33 posted on 04/17/2005 5:27:14 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

Nope. They may only last 10 seconds or so.


34 posted on 04/17/2005 5:27:57 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: mewzilla

A long history of killer crests

Rogue waves like the one that slammed into the Norwegian Dawn yesterday are more common and more dangerous than scientists first thought.

The waves, which can reach 15 to 80 feet high, have been responsible for the loss of more than 200 ships - including giant tankers and container vessels - in the past 20 years.

They also have caused damage to countless others, contradicting the long-held belief that only rare meteorological events could create the moving mountains of water. In fact, radar-based images last summer revealed 10 such waves in just a three-week period in the Atlantic Ocean.

In January, one such renegade wave smashed into the research vessel Explorer carrying nearly 1,000 people, including hundreds of students on a semester at sea program about 1,300 miles southwest of Anchorage in the Pacific Ocean.

The mammoth wave reared up in a voyage already wracked by storms, shattering windows on the 600-foot ship's bridge and shutting down three of its four engines.

Crews were forced to herd passengers into the center of the ship, which eventually limped into Hawai.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/300795p-257522c.html


35 posted on 04/17/2005 5:28:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Dutch Boy
So where did the 70 foot wave go? Did it hit shore somewhere?

It probably dissipated shortly after doing its thing on the cruise ship. A "freak" wave is called that because it's the product of two or more wave-generating sources -- two storms, for example -- that send out waves and they pile up on one another. This may have been a storm that sent out a forty-foot wave that encountered a thirty-foot wave from another storm that piled up on it and they traveled together for a while. Result: a 70-foot wave. But only temporary.

In 1965, my cruise ship to Vietnam, the USNS Gordon, was laid into by one of those at night while we were watching a movie on deck (Lawrence of Arabia); it was terrifying. I thought we were going to capsize.

36 posted on 04/17/2005 5:29:17 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: mewzilla

Basically with these things there's enough time for a lookout to say "Oh Shi..." before it hits.


37 posted on 04/17/2005 5:29:27 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist; Rebelbase
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Glad I'm a landlubber :)

38 posted on 04/17/2005 5:29:38 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Strategerist

Thanks for the info. I was thinking of a standard wave. I forgot about resonant waves.


39 posted on 04/17/2005 5:30:01 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Snickersnee

There actually are some pictures of a few of these on the net (and some of the damage wrought); if I didn't have to leave for a fencing tournament right now I'd post some.

They're out there if you search on rogue waves though; One off South Carolina I remember. Some from South Africa.


40 posted on 04/17/2005 5:31:37 AM PDT by Strategerist
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