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Guantanamo Bosnians cry 'torture'
bbc.co.uk ^ | Thursday, 14 April, 2005, 11:30 GMT 12:30 UK | bbc.co.uk

Posted on 04/14/2005 6:33:35 PM PDT by Destro

Last Updated: Thursday, 14 April, 2005, 11:30 GMT 12:30 UK

Guantanamo Bosnians cry 'torture'

Six Guantanamo Bay detainees are challenging US federal authorities to reveal evidence of abuse at the camp.

The six - all of Algerian origin and extradited from Bosnia - are suing the Bush administration as part of their effort to contest their detention.

They want the government to release documents which they say would prove that prisoners were tortured.

In their legal action, they say one of the six was beaten so badly by jailers that he suffered facial paralysis.

The detainee, Mustafa Ait Idir, alleges that his hands were tied behind his back while the beating took place.

"The guards picked him up and slammed his body and his head into the steel bunk in his cell," according to legal papers filed on Wednesday at a court in Boston.

The guards then pushed his face into a toilet and "repeatedly pressed the flush button", the account continued.

It said the detainee suffered a stroke after the beating, leaving half of his face paralysed.

Pentagon spokesman Maj Michael Shavers said the department did not discuss specific cases, but added that it was US policy to treat detainees humanely.

Information

The six were arrested in late 2001 in Bosnia on suspicion of plotting attacks against the US and UK embassies in Sarajevo.

Despite a ruling by Bosnia's highest court that they should be released, the men were handed over to the US in 2002 and have been held as "enemy combatants" ever since.

Their legal action is aimed at forcing the US authorities to release documents, medical records and videotapes regarding their detention.

Lawyers for the men say that despite numerous requests under the Freedom of Information Act, they have been unable to obtain any of the documents they seek.

In January, more than 100 people staged a protest in Sarajevo demanding freedom for the men.

Volunteers from different Muslim countries helped Bosnian Muslims during the bloody war against Serbs and Croats in the early 1990s. Many of them chose to stay and became Bosnian nationals.

The legal action comes as terror suspect Jose Padilla, held without charge in a US military prison since 2002 for allegedly trying to set off a "dirty bomb", enters a new phase in his efforts to secure his freedom.

Mr Padilla was due to be released on Thursday, after a US federal jduge ruled that his continued detention was unlawful and gave the Bush administration 45 days to let him go.

However, the order is now apparently on hold while federal prosecutors file an appeal, correspondents say.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanarabs; algeria; algerian; algerians; alqaeda; balkans; boguslawsuit; bosnia; bosnians; europe; guantanamo; terrorists; waronterror; wot
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Our old Bosnian Muslim allies now turned enemies (Thanks for these "allies" Clinton) cry wolf all the time - as they did in Bosnia against the Serbs.
1 posted on 04/14/2005 6:33:36 PM PDT by Destro
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To: Balkans

Irony of ironies - FREE SLOBO!


2 posted on 04/14/2005 6:34:01 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon
Hi Ronly Bonly, sad to see you defend the Bosnian Muslims even in this.

Free Slobo!

4 posted on 04/14/2005 6:36:28 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

They know we will not release those papers, this is just an issue of giving the USA a bad image and creating turmoil at home, the only way these people have power is if we pay attention to them, please shut them out of your mind completely even if you want to make a statement to defend America it will still give them power. DO NOT PUBLICIZE ISSUES LIKE THESE


6 posted on 04/14/2005 6:44:41 PM PDT by future F22 pilot (FREEDOM)
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To: future F22 pilot

Well, this is also something out of the Al Qaeda handbook for captured terrorists.

/not kidding.


7 posted on 04/14/2005 6:49:16 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon
Maybe they have to seeing as how Slobo has shut down the effectiveness of the UN Court.
8 posted on 04/14/2005 6:49:22 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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Our old Bosnian Muslim allies now turned enemies (Thanks for these "allies" Clinton) cry wolf all the time - as they did in Bosnia against the Serbs.

I wish Bush would renege on the Bosnian/Kosovo Muslims support, and throw our support behind the Serbs, and the Russians who are struggling to defeat the Islamic militants in Europe. Another thing that Bush needs to do is to lobby Europe NOT to let Turkey in the EU. He must have stupid advisers because the last time he was in Europe he was pushing the Europeans to accept 80 millions Muslims to be free to roam around Christian (granted in name only) Europe.

9 posted on 04/14/2005 6:50:59 PM PDT by conservlib
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"The guards then pushed his face into a toilet and "repeatedly pressed the flush button", the account continued."

First, panties on the head are torture. Now, swirlies are torture.

We need to sweep and toss every gym locker room in every high school in America before we have a wedgie epidemic.

That leads me to a rhetorical question: Is it technically possible to pull someone's underwear over a turban? The physics of the tensile strength of underwear would make for some fascinating research here.

10 posted on 04/14/2005 6:57:13 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: yooper

Swirlies!! lol.


11 posted on 04/14/2005 6:58:58 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
American policy in the Balkans and your wishes are just consistently 180 degrees out of phase, aren't they?

Could have something to do with your constant misinterpretation and misrepresentation of events in the Balkans, but whatever - you've shown no capacity to learn from your mistakes in the past, so any hopes for a change on your part is just so much wasted effort.

12 posted on 04/14/2005 7:00:55 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Maybe I am a thick headed Bulgarian?

Sofia Warns of Terrorism Creeping toward Balkans

13 posted on 04/14/2005 7:02:44 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Thick headed, yes, but not Bulgarian.


14 posted on 04/14/2005 7:07:09 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Destro just misses the good old days when America was destined to be destroyed by the mighty Slavic Soviet Empire. It must irk him that America grows stronger every day while Serbia and Russia fade into oblivion. Of course, he also misses the good old 90's when Serbs fought Islam by killing Christian Croats and Slovenes before they got around to actually fighting any Muslims. And, of course, he misses the Milosevic clan's remarkable ability to get rich off the drug trade and other rackets while the Serbian GDP shrank every year for a decade.


15 posted on 04/14/2005 7:21:01 PM PDT by LenS
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To: LenS
Apart from the Soviets not being Orthodox, which is Destro's prime motivation (as observed), yeah, he's a pretty pissed off at the way things have turned out little muldoon.

Of course, that's not to say that the KLA can't resurrect itself and go to war with KFOR and the US, thus providing some proof behind Destro's puddingheaded thinking, but I suppose we should constrain ourselves withing the bounds of the probable, rather than the how ever far fetched possible.

LOL.

16 posted on 04/14/2005 7:42:33 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Destro

We're seeing the effects of Clinton's "wrong war" in Bosnia :a new and improved haven for Al Qaeda... and the monsters created from its liberation led by Supreme Commander Wesley Clark the Great (the harshest critic of the war in Iraq).


17 posted on 04/14/2005 7:58:45 PM PDT by citizencon
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Despite a ruling by Bosnia's highest court that they should be released, the men were handed over to the US in 2002 and have been held as "enemy combatants" ever since.

Just out of curiosity, what's your definition of the word "haven"?

18 posted on 04/14/2005 8:06:51 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: LenS

You just miss the days when Muslims fought for us.


19 posted on 04/14/2005 9:03:36 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Hoplite; LenS
Wrong again, I am not Orthodox, nor am I very Christian - maybe a Deist today - maybe agnostic - depends on my moods. But I am violently anti-Muslim. Islam is a destroying religion - it is not compatible with Western/enlightenment civilization and needs to be contained and stomped.
20 posted on 04/14/2005 9:05:44 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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