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Annan: US, UK Also Bear Blame in Oil, Food Scandal
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Posted on 04/14/2005 12:52:42 PM PDT by Dominick

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To: CyberAnt

In real estate the words to know are location, location, location.


101 posted on 04/14/2005 7:21:05 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Dominick

This is like saying the cops are responsible for burglaries because they weren't around to stop them.


102 posted on 04/14/2005 8:31:03 PM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: Terriergal
Maybe we should start stopping some of the crap in this world and stop worrying about what some two bit dictator or liberal media outlet say. The UN is now a farce.... I hope Bolton goes in there and shows those despots there what free world leadership is. The battle of good vs evil is a constant struggle. I have learned you can't sit back for one minute much less 8 years! Americans need to learn that we are the leaders of the free world and we should start acting like it. We weren't given our technological, economical and political advantage to mope around and worry about our looks, clothes or cars! Our nation has advanced and developed over time for a reason. The world is still full of many dark places and the United States is THE light! Our people must come to grips that our lives should not be centered on our own self gratification but a purpose of bringing freedom and democracy throughout the world. Think about it? Iraq, North Korea, Iran, I can go on and on about all of the tyrants who hate our nation. Our enemies don't want the people to decide just individuals they deem fit that should decide. They hate us for what we stand for. Freedom, Liberty. We have always been on the defensive we need to be on the offensive for freedom. For Kofi to even suggest that we could have stopped anything is a big fat thumb in our nose. It's time we stop worrying about people of his like and take action we see fit for our country. It's time to lead again!
103 posted on 04/14/2005 8:46:13 PM PDT by rip033
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To: Dominick

Good grief.


104 posted on 04/14/2005 8:58:43 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Mr.Atos

"Stupid or Feckless, either way it makes Kofi unqualified even to clean floors at the UN. But, then the UN isn't qualified to run a floor cleaning service. They sweep to much dirt under the rugs."

ha ha. how about not even qualified to have rugs, much less the dirt under them, or even have a concret slab floor the dirt is sitting on, possibly not even rated to have rebar in the concrete, or even have a lease on the building or land, or even have a visa to come here to try and accomplish something, or even being actually considered to be purposeful in anything.


105 posted on 04/14/2005 9:56:02 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: contemplator

"Let me see if I understand this circular logic:

The US and UK are to blame for allowing unsupervised exports under a program which the UN was in charge of supervising.

In other words, The US and UK are to blame because they did not do the UN's job.

I wonder if Kofi realizes the argument he is using essentially says that the UN itself is irrelevant, and that the member states are to blame for not doing everything on their own."

You are very close. Let's look at it this way and then you can respond.

"The US and UK are to blame for allowing unsupervised exports under a program which the UN was in charge of supervising." In other words for not sending in troops to stop what the UN was in charge of, and not only that the US and the UK did not have permission from the UN to send in any troops, so it is the US and the UK fault for not doing what the UN did not give them permission to do.


106 posted on 04/14/2005 10:09:26 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Dominick

Scumbag!


107 posted on 04/15/2005 4:11:58 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Dominick

Everyone should know that Bush did it.


108 posted on 04/15/2005 6:06:04 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Sacajaweau
Getting pretty brave with his words...but then, wasn't he with Bubba yesterday? Bubba is writing Kofi's editorials now?

Except Bubba was President when these policies were formulated and implemented. Clinton allowed (tunred a blind eye) the sales of oil to Turkey and Jordan outside the Food for Oil Program.

109 posted on 04/15/2005 6:09:08 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Dominick

The difference is that we want to catch the bad guys. As Thomas Sowell put it before the 1996 Presidential election, "The choice is between a second-class fireman or a first-class arsonist."


110 posted on 04/15/2005 6:11:16 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: Dominick

What a 'Class A' Clymer.


111 posted on 04/15/2005 8:42:28 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: contemplator; mjaneangels@aolcom; All
How about actually reading the lead article and recognize that the smuggling in question took place outside of the OFF program and even began long before it was established? And that the Multinational Interception Force was charged with preventing such smuggling, not the UN?

"CIA weapons inspector Charles Duelfer found that corruption within the U.N. oil-for-food program, such as inflated prices for goods shipped to Iraq, amounted to $1.7 billion. But he said Iraq made most of his money, another $8 billion through kickbacks on oil exports outside of the program.

'The bulk of the money Saddam made came after smuggling outside the oil for food program,' Annan said. "It was on the American and British watch.'"

112 posted on 04/15/2005 10:06:36 AM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: Dominick

koffee kup thinks we ought to have started out by bombing Jordan and Turkey, no doubt...


113 posted on 04/15/2005 10:24:13 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: contemplator

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Let me see if I understand this circular logic:

The US and UK are to blame for allowing unsupervised exports under a program which the UN was in charge of supervising.

In other words, The US and UK are to blame because they did not do the UN's job.

I wonder if Kofi realizes the argument he is using essentially says that the UN itself is irrelevant, and that the member states are to blame for not doing everything on their own.

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Yes!
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114 posted on 04/15/2005 10:26:51 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Dominick
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Thursday the United States and Britain bore part of the blame in the Iraq oil-for-food debacle by allowing unsupervised oil exports that Saddam Hussein exploited.

I think the US and UK should grab onto this statement of Annan's...he's clearly stating that he expects us to be the watchdog of the UN's illegal activities.

115 posted on 04/15/2005 1:09:07 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW
Hello, anyone at home? *knock knock*

The UN had nothing to do with this, neither actively (they were not involved in this smuggling) nor passively (it was not the UN's responsibility to prevent it, but the Multinational Interception Force, which is unrelated to the UN).

I am on the verge on giving up on this whole board. Are we going to have more respect for basic facts than the drooling dummies on DU, or are we, too, just going to make stuff up to make it fit our preconception?

116 posted on 04/15/2005 1:19:44 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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Possible response by Senator Kerry: "My position on this issue is perfectly consistent and clear. I was for military action to interdict the flow of oil before I was against military action to interdict the flow of oil."


117 posted on 04/15/2005 1:45:29 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Rummyfan
It's gonna be fun watching Mr. Bolton rip the UN a new a**hole...
118 posted on 04/15/2005 1:45:39 PM PDT by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel) (Scientology must be stopped from murdering disabled people)
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To: Tamberlane
Hello, anyone at home? *knock knock*

Before you decide to be rude perhaps you should take some remedial reading comprehension classes.

Let's look again at what the article says Kofi was blaming on the US and UK...

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Thursday the United States and Britain bore part of the blame in the Iraq oil-for-food debacle by allowing unsupervised oil exports that Saddam Hussein exploited.

So Annan was blaming the US and UK for the OIL FOR FOOD debacle, not just the smuggling.

119 posted on 04/15/2005 4:41:33 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: BenLurkin

"A new international organization -- comprised only of truly democratic nations -- will need to replace it."

I'd vote for that. :)

Annan is up to his eyeballs in this but I'm predicting he's still going to skate.


120 posted on 04/15/2005 4:44:33 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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