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To: fortunecookie
This minister clearly has that kind of fear message based on old prejudices and misunderstandings.
 
How about THIS  message??
 

NIV Matthew 5:22
   But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, `Raca, ' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, `You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell
 
NIV Matthew 5:29-30
  If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.   And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
 
NIV Matthew 10:28
   Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
 
NIV Matthew 23:15
15.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
 
NIV Matthew 23:33
   "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 
NIV 2 Peter 2:4-9
4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.

317 posted on 04/14/2005 2:09:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

I am familiar with all of those verses. Perhaps you misunderstood me. The fear message used is that Catholics are going to hell merely for being Catholic. No other reason. No personal holiness or prayer life can possibly save them. Jesus has rejected them for no other reason. That falls way short. And, my personal favorite, no one who claims Jesus (and btw, Catholics regularly affirm their love for and faith in Jesus), regardless of any evil they do, whenever they do the evil, will go to hell. Jesus clearly warns each of us through the New Testament to avoid sin, to live as He taught us, by the examples He gave us. These verses do not say one is going to hell because one belongs to any Church that praises God and follows the teachings of His Son, Jesus. And following them is accepting them.


340 posted on 04/14/2005 2:22:27 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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