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To: animoveritas
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nolite dare sanctum canibus neque mittatis margaritas vestras ante porcos ne forte conculcent eas pedibus suis et conversi disrumpant vos




NIV 1 Corinthians 14:5-28
5.  I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,  but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues,  unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified.
 6.  Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
 7.  Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes?
 8.  Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?
 9.  So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.
 10.  Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning.
 11.  If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me.
 12.  So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church.
 13.  For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says.
 14.  For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
 15.  So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind.
 16.  If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not understand  say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying?
 17.  You may be giving thanks well enough, but the other man is not edified.
 18.  I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.
 19.  But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
 20.  Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults.
 21.  In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord.
 22.  Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.
 23.  So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand  or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?
 24.  But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all,
 25.  and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!"
 26.  What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church.
 27.  If anyone speaks in a tongue, two--or at the most three--should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret.
 28.  If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God.

 

(I would tend to think the sames rule would apply to someone who posts in a tongue, as well.)


1,422 posted on 04/25/2005 3:28:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
My dear friend, Latin is the language of the Church. If you are willing to accept not only a vulgar translation, but a translation of a translation of a translation etc; a multiply translated text which has been spun and perverted through verbicide, you are physically removed from the information of scripture, and true intent. Hence my note that much of what has been posted is out of context.

I submit that the politically correct vulgar interpretations are a factor in the larger societal issue: the split Christian vote. "Concupiscence" and "fornication" have been stricken from your translation because of their powerful and suscinct definitions. Verbicidal translations use the anomalous words "sin" and "immorality." Since "sin" and "immorality" are relative terms, vice the absolute terms "concupiscence" and "fornication," the scripture now becomes open to relativistic interpretation vice the absolute meaning and intent. This wishy-washy language enables the liberal Christian crowd claims to be faithful and pro-abortion.

We wouldn't trust repeated rewritting of the US Constitution to maintain true integrity, so neither should we trust repeated rewriting and translation of scripture. I say go to the source.

1,439 posted on 04/26/2005 7:22:47 AM PDT by animoveritas (Dispersit superbos mente cordis sui.)
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