Posted on 04/13/2005 4:15:06 PM PDT by naturalman1975
"the way women dress in the West today, a way that is deliberately designed to attract attention from men, and indeed to provoke them sexually."
I hate to break this to you, but most women dress for themselves, for reasons of fashion, or for other women. I do have a solution for your distress, however: Just tell every scantily-clad woman* who titillates you that you're getting turned you. I'm quite sure that she'll promptly flee from your sight. We gals may be "irresponsible, immature, and hypocritical" but we do have some standards.
* excluding the ones you meet at the nudie bar.
Well, she's an adulteress, isn't she? Of course they have to kill her.
I suppose this is an argument that will never be settled. I suppose it is a little bit like inflammatory free speech -- not exactly but a little. If someone says something violently offensive they should expect there will be blowback.
If a woman is dressed in a particularly provocative manner, she should perhaps be a little extra cautious about her surroundings as it might be just enough to push some vicious rapist over the line. Doesn't make her wrong. Doesn't make the rapist right. Just the way it is. If she doesn't want to be the statistic, she's careful.
Hell, everybody's careful these days. This society is closing down, and one day the lights may go off.
"The attitude of some of the men on this thread really surprises me."
Not me. IMO it stems from a belief on many men's part that there's some point where women give up the right to their bodies, be it through drunkeness or slutty dress or being in the frat house after midnight. I don't care for the way some women dress, especially young girls, but I view that as a separate issue from the problem of some men believing that women should lose the right to their own bodies if they don't follow certain 'rules', rules that apparently vary from male mind to male mind. If a guy truly isn't sure whether he's being invited to bed, all he has to do is ask.
"If a woman is dressed in a particularly provocative manner, she should perhaps be a little extra cautious about her surroundings as it might be just enough to push some vicious rapist over the line. Doesn't make her wrong. Doesn't make the rapist right. Just the way it is. If she doesn't want to be the statistic, she's careful."
There's nothing here I can disagree with. There are philosophical arguments and there are practical arguments.
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