1 posted on
04/13/2005 4:03:43 PM PDT by
Lorianne
To: Lorianne
His theory still doesn't address the Law of First Cause.
His "hacker physicists" who "create another universe", first have to start off with a little matter as Linde said. So, they had to come from somewhere and so did the matter they work with.
When you extrapolate the Law of First Cause to infinity, you arrive at an uncaused first cause....God.
2 posted on
04/13/2005 4:21:35 PM PDT by
Fiat volvntas tva
(I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
To: Lorianne
intelligence was behind the creation. there is no other explanation, and objective logic (rather than objectivist philosophy) eventually leads one to this conclusion.
the creation is too perfect and too synchronized to be random. the chicken and the egg analogy dictates some intervention... unless one believes in some form of fractal evolutionary theory.
i read too much.
3 posted on
04/13/2005 4:26:44 PM PDT by
mmercier
To: Lorianne
Or, it's all a figment of something's imagination? What something?
4 posted on
04/13/2005 4:30:12 PM PDT by
Waco
To: Lorianne
The way most people decide what is naturally occurring and what is a created artifact, is by checking for orderliness and purpose. A manufacturer's label is a tip-off too. So when we walk outside and we see a pencil and a rock, we can pretty much guess that the pencil is an artifact and the rock is natural.
It's real easy to see order and purpose in the cosmos. IMHO we even have manufacturer's labels and instruction manuals. The problem comes with the concept of 'is'. 'Is' a characteristic of the universe-- IOW, before the beginning, 'is' wasn't.
So if anyone asks 'is' there a God?, I might have to answer "no" -- that as far as I can tell, our Creator makes 'is' and can't be characterized by it.
To: Lorianne
Linde is the poster boy for atheistic ID. Remember next time somebody tells you that ID is synomous with religion that Linde says the designer was Joe Blow in the garage in Universe 6.
6 posted on
04/13/2005 4:33:42 PM PDT by
jwalsh07
To: Lorianne
Dr Hugh Ross has the best explanations of the universe. The universe was created to the smallest detail. A college girl majoring in Microbiology said there were no atheist in microbiology. Visit Reasons.org and get the details explained better than this guy.
7 posted on
04/13/2005 4:36:32 PM PDT by
mountainlyons
(alienated vet)
To: Lorianne
10 posted on
04/13/2005 4:43:58 PM PDT by
SwinneySwitch
(Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
To: Lorianne
Hey, lighten up, OK? I am new at this. This is only my 10 x 1,000,000,000 times that I have tried to do this. Trust me, I will get it right eventually. I just need to tweak a few equations.
In the mean time, with your kind permission, I might take a few precious moments, say 10 x 1,000,000 light years, to work on my Jerk Chicken recipe, if you don't mind. And then, Shazzam! (Shazzam = a Google of light years), I will have the answer for you. As they used to say, back in the 10 to the negative tenth days, keep the "faith baby".
Hang in there people, God
11 posted on
04/13/2005 4:45:51 PM PDT by
joem15
(Truth is a formidable Force)
To: Lorianne
12 posted on
04/13/2005 5:03:01 PM PDT by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: PatrickHenry
Science pinglist?
19 posted on
04/14/2005 2:15:11 AM PDT by
dread78645
(Sarcasm tags are for wusses.)
To: Lorianne
IMHO it has always been a problem of logic....if you're in the box..just how exactly do you determine the outside dimensions and properties?
36 posted on
04/15/2005 4:28:25 AM PDT by
mo
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