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Mark Steyn: The Icewoman Cometh [To Hill and back]
National Review Online ^ | April 25, 2005 issue | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/13/2005 1:10:44 PM PDT by Constitution Day

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To: Dog Gone
"I think Steyn is wrong. Hillary is not electable."

I second that.

She can wear a wig, lose 30 lbs, morph into a patriotic, nationalist American, change her gender in Denmark, grow a beard and spit fifty dollar gold pieces. She's unelectable as president.

21 posted on 04/13/2005 1:36:52 PM PDT by G.Mason (If you see Lazamataz, will you have him ping me?)
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To: John Lenin
Wasn't she already the end of the US? I wonder if we will ever recover from the Clintons and Jimmie Carter. There are long-term disasters waiting to happen, thanks to them: Korea, China, the traitors embedded in our structure. Our attitude toward Hillary ought to be simply

Defeat the monster!

not clap ourselves on the back for having a GOP House and Senate under her. That is not enough. Defeatism leads to defeat. I appreciate the column because Steyn is a genius for warning us early.
22 posted on 04/13/2005 1:36:53 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: Dog Gone

I think Steyn is wrong. Hillary is not electable

I hope you're right, but Herr Steyn is usually pretty spot on! What we need to do is start on a plan, not to mention finding a candidate, to BEAT HER.


23 posted on 04/13/2005 1:38:08 PM PDT by Primetimedonna
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To: Constitution Day

If the Republicans play it right, they can win. But it's not obvious at the moment who their candidate for will be in 2008. The most prominent names are pro-abortion, and therefore unelectable.

It wouldn't be the first time the Republicans managed to take a winning position and lose with it.

My dream vision at the moment is that Condi stands up, declares that she has seen the light and is now pro-life, and runs for the presidency. Failing that, they will have to take some conservative southerner who is unknown to most of the country and make him known, with the liberal media obstructing every inch of the way.


24 posted on 04/13/2005 1:38:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dep
well, true, but it would have to be a really good party, with live music and premium beer and pony rides for the kiddies.

Sounds like just the ticket for the Dim party. Anything to keep the voters from actually THINKING, which would have them voting anything but Dim.

Shalolm.

25 posted on 04/13/2005 1:38:56 PM PDT by ArGee (Why do we let the abnormal tell us what's normal?)
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To: Dog Gone
Hillary is not electable.

That depends on who the Republicans run against her. By the time she announces, the MSM will have paved the way so that she will be deemed to have won by acclimation. The only formality will be to run an election.

26 posted on 04/13/2005 1:39:47 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: sine_nomine; All

Also ignore her talks about the border.. She is just saying it to fool some people.. She does not give a damn about the borders.


27 posted on 04/13/2005 1:40:12 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: sine_nomine

She is a magnet for fund raising. The GOP has the biggest trump card they ever held in young voters and tax hikes. We shall see how bad they want to lose.


28 posted on 04/13/2005 1:40:53 PM PDT by John Lenin (It's not if it feels good ,do it, it's if it feels right , do it !)
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To: John Lenin
Than again fraud is the way it is done in Washington State, isn't it ?

It wasn't fraud...they stole it fair and square.

29 posted on 04/13/2005 1:41:17 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: NCSteve
"I wouldn't mortgage your house to bet on that if I were you."

You can take it to the bank. Hitlary is a loser in any run for president.

There are Republicans that have yet to be flailed by the MSM and the Dims, that will be shining stars by the time 2007, and the hard campaign push begins.

Should the Dims nominate her, she'll be getting zotted so much she'll be shooting lightning bolts out of her butt.

Ask any woman, you respect, if she would vote for Hillary. ;)

30 posted on 04/13/2005 1:49:07 PM PDT by G.Mason (If you see Lazamataz, will you have him ping me?)
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To: Dog Gone

I really have a hard time gauging the average American, especially on issues like "would you vote for the quintessential Witchy Woman" but it seems to me that her grating, annoying, shrill (go ahead, call me sexist) voice when she gets "animated" will not last long in a grueling Presidential campaign.


31 posted on 04/13/2005 1:49:17 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You are a wise man." -- Torie; "You rock!" -- TonyRo76)
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To: Constitution Day; Pokey78

Thanks for posting this, CD, and for the ping, Pokey.

I think Hillary could definitely be elected. It would be the uninformed and women who vote her in.

Take my sister, for example. Please ;)

She never reads the news--especially political news--and is proud of it. And she votes straight ticket Democrat in every election.

There are plenty of women who voted for GW because of security concerns who would love to vote for Hillary. Especially after the fawning Oprah appearances, etc...

*gag*


32 posted on 04/13/2005 1:49:43 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Snardius

If Hillary runs for re-election in 2006 and is beaten by Guiliani, she is essentially finished as a political player. She'll have all the political stroke that Al Gore and John Edwards have now.


33 posted on 04/13/2005 1:51:34 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: AmishDude

"grating, annoying, shrill (go ahead, call me sexist) voice when she gets "animated" will not last long in a grueling Presidential campaign."

You're not sexist at all. I agree with you about her annoying voice and demeanor.

That may be the one saving grace. Can she present a fake persona for all that time, under all that pressure?

I hope not.


34 posted on 04/13/2005 1:51:47 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Constitution Day
But don’t be surprised if November 2008 is the usual day of disaster for Democrats in the Senate, House, and states, with the exception of Hillary’s election as president — and Chelsea’s stunning victory in the North Dakota governor’s race.

Just don't run a "Bob Dull" campaign and I think it will be all right. Well, unless it's McCain or Guliani...they'd be even worse! If either of those two are the Pubbie nominee, I'm selling some mutual funds shares and buying lots more guns and ammo.

35 posted on 04/13/2005 1:52:50 PM PDT by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: AmishDude

I have had several women who are Democrats tell me that they would never vote for Hillary, and they say it emphatically.


36 posted on 04/13/2005 1:53:26 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Rummyfan

Maybe, but what if the economy is good during her 4 years. She could win again!

Ughhhh.....


37 posted on 04/13/2005 1:54:23 PM PDT by LongsforReagan (I hate Howard Dean and everything he stands for.)
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To: proud American in Canada

It's funny because I've never heard a female politician get shrill the way she does. It's not at committee meetings or sit-down interviews (then she does the fake laugh) but it's when she gives speeches. It's grating. Her handlers will try to keep her out of the limelight as much as possible, but there is nothing like an American presidential campaign. Nothing even close.


38 posted on 04/13/2005 1:54:35 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You are a wise man." -- Torie; "You rock!" -- TonyRo76)
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To: Dog Gone
I have had several women who are Democrats tell me that they would never vote for Hillary, and they say it emphatically.

Do they also tell you you're cute and they'd really like to find a guy just like you?

Maybe they just want on your good side.

39 posted on 04/13/2005 1:55:46 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You are a wise man." -- Torie; "You rock!" -- TonyRo76)
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To: Constitution Day
and Chelsea’s stunning victory in the North Dakota governor’s race

Really?
40 posted on 04/13/2005 1:56:17 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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