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Next we should starve the courts
Town Hall ^ | April 12, 2005 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 04/13/2005 5:51:47 AM PDT by WaterDragon

The courts so purposely humiliated Congress in the Terri Schiavo case that some U.S. representatives are finally beginning to talk back. Non-elected judges have flagrantly abused the legislative and executive functions of government for so many years that we wonder why a reaction has taken this long.

With the whole world watching, a mere probate judge in Florida thumbed his nose at a congressional subpoena and refused to comply. Then the federal judiciary closed ranks behind him, asserting its independence from and supremacy over not only an act of Congress, but even over the life of an innocent and defenseless woman.

Eleventh Circuit Judge Stanley Birch stuck in the knife, asserting that Congress unconstitutionally "invades the province of the judiciary and violates the separation of powers principle." We marvel at the chutzpah of a federal judge charging Congress with violating the separation of powers after we've endured years of judges legislating from the bench, rewriting our Constitution, distorting our history, assaulting our morals, saving vicious criminals from their just punishment, raising taxes and inflicting us with foreign laws.

When a man's honor is impugned, he can pretend he didn't hear the insult or he can come out fighting. Congress can't pretend it didn't hear Judge Birch's insult, so Congress must take action to curb the imperial action of supremacist judges.

Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., responded that we saw "a state judge completely ignore a congressional committee's subpoena and insult its intent" and "a federal court not only reject, but deride the very law that Congress passed.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; courts; schiavo; schlafly; starve
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1 posted on 04/13/2005 5:51:47 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Good article. Schafly is correct on all points. Of course, the REAL problem is that Congress and President Bush basically caved in to the judiciary, instead of asserting the rights and privileges of THEIR "separate and co-equal" branches of the Government. What SHOULD have been done is for the Federal executive branch to send in a group of Federal Marshalls to enforce the subpoena, and the court decision be damned.

Unless and until the other branches get enough cojones to stand up to the judicial branch, we can count on much more of the same.

2 posted on 04/13/2005 5:59:57 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: WaterDragon

What we should do is starve the CIVIL courts. But beef up the criminal courts.


3 posted on 04/13/2005 6:04:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: WaterDragon
The solution to this Judicial Branch problem is MassImpeachment of Federal Judges!!

FReegards...MUD

4 posted on 04/13/2005 6:04:24 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: WaterDragon

Good ideas but it won't go anywhere. Congress will not take on the judiciary. The dictators in black robes will continue to make laws for us all.


5 posted on 04/13/2005 6:06:56 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Mudboy Slim

Preach it, Brother Mudboy!


6 posted on 04/13/2005 6:07:29 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: Mudboy Slim
The solution to this Judicial Branch problem is MassImpeachment of Federal Judges!!

Which ones, and for what? Some specifics would be nice.

7 posted on 04/13/2005 6:09:55 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: atlaw

Ginsberg............for stating that the use of foreign law in SCOTUS ruling is allowable..........that is a direct violation of her oath of office..............


8 posted on 04/13/2005 6:14:30 AM PDT by joe fonebone (We won.......time to do it OUR way!)
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To: WaterDragon
"[A] mere probate judge in Florida thumbed his nose at a congressional subpoena..."

How dare that puny little state ignore the feds. Federalism is, after all, a liberal idea (as of about three weeks ago).

9 posted on 04/13/2005 6:16:28 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: EricT.

I'm with ya, brother...MUD


10 posted on 04/13/2005 6:18:18 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: atlaw
"Which ones, and for what? Some specifics would be nice."

All judges who legislate from the bench, and the charges would begin with Abuse of Power and go on from there, my FRiend. Also, those Supreme Court Justices who reference foreign precedents to support their skewed rulings deserve to be ousted immediately. As far as the SCOTUS goes, I say we start by impeaching Ginsberg and Breyer and Souter...they are amongst the worst offenders!!

FReegards...MUD

11 posted on 04/13/2005 6:20:52 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: joe fonebone

Correction. For taking account of international laws and mores in making a ruling under U.S. law.

I find it a little bit of a stretch to use a judge's recognition of factual reality as grounds for impeachment.


12 posted on 04/13/2005 6:21:38 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: atlaw
Which ones, and for what?

The ones who are the wrong sort of activist, for being the wrong sort of activist. Not in so many words, of course...

13 posted on 04/13/2005 6:23:20 AM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: WaterDragon

Great post. Just starting Levin's "Men in Black". Up to Chapter 3. Great so far!


14 posted on 04/13/2005 6:23:32 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Mudboy Slim
All judges who legislate from the bench...

That's not very helpful. Which ones, and for what specific acts of "bench legislation?"

And lest you forget, the current Supreme Court may be fairly identified as the most conservative court in the last 75 years. Kind of rash to ditch a panel of judges that has consistently ruled favorably on conservative issues for one (rather oddly) perceived decisional indiscretion.

15 posted on 04/13/2005 6:26:36 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: Wonder Warthog
What if the courts were limited in their exercise of judicial power with respect to private citizens as they are limited with respect to the sovereign?

What I mean is that judges, legislators, state's attorneys (prosecutors in Florida) have judicial and legislative immunity for their wrongful acts except when clearly outside their roles as judges, legislators, or prosecutors.
What if similar immunities were afforded private citizens in the course of their duties?

Similarly, the concept of "sovereign immunity" works to limit damages that a court may impose upon a governmental unit (and in Florida, it limits attorneys' fees that a successful litigant can be charged by that litigant's attorneys).
Isn't what's good for the "sovereign" goose good for the citizen gander (or is that "subject" not "citizen")?

While such approaches would not directly address the issues raised by Mrs. Schlafly, I really think the reasons the courts are "run-away" in the first place is to further certain economic interests. Attacking the economic incentive at the source may be better than a head-on assault that can be spun as "taking away citizens' rights to redress grievances."
16 posted on 04/13/2005 6:26:41 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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To: atlaw

Correction noted.......however, using factual reality from another country's law does indeed violate the oath of office......our laws are based upon our constitution, not htose of other contries constitutions.........


17 posted on 04/13/2005 6:30:03 AM PDT by joe fonebone (We won.......time to do it OUR way!)
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To: atlaw
Is your picture on the back cover of some yellow pages somewhere? Or on a billboard proclaiming you "for the people" or somesuch?

Just wondering.
18 posted on 04/13/2005 6:31:31 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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To: Wonder Warthog
You've summarized the problem nicely. The original concept of the Founders is inoperable. The system of checks and balances implicit in a tripartite system wherein the different branches are (theoretically) co-equal has broken down. So you have the spectacle we have today, and the tragic travesty of the Schiavo case, wherein one branch of government is abusing its authority by ordering the death of an innocent citizen of the land, and the other branches cower in fear before and submit in despicable obsequiousness to the black-robed tyrant.
19 posted on 04/13/2005 6:33:39 AM PDT by chimera
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To: The Great Yazoo

A prime example of what passes for rational debate these days. Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer the conservative notion of factual discourse, rather than the liberal notion of pointless insult.


20 posted on 04/13/2005 6:40:00 AM PDT by atlaw
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