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Eyewitness report from the US/Mexico border from two Minuteman Project volunteers - 9 & 10 April
email | 9 & 10 April 2005 | Jack & Barb

Posted on 04/12/2005 9:03:38 PM PDT by Spiff

Eyewitness report from the Arizona/Mexico border from two Minuteman volunteers

Jack & Barb
April 9, 2005

Wind is really strong today. Blew over one of the porta-pots they put out in the field for the tenters to use. It was very strong out on the line for the time we were there.

Lots of new people came in today. Some to stay the weekend and some for a week or more. It is encouraging to see new people arrive every day.

We received an official BP report today. Only 74 aliens arrested yesterday where normally there are hundreds. In the sector where normally 500 to 600 aliens cross daily there were 0 arrested.

I mentioned yesterday that the BP was getting friendlier. The Agents in the field are but we found out today that they have a supervisor on duty 24/7 specifically assigned to interrogate any illegal aliens that are spotted and reported by the Minutemen and arrested by the BP to determine if the Minutemen did, said or even gestured anything that they can charge the Minutemen with. Our government does not want the Minuteman project to succeed. The BP supervisors are following the party line like the good little sheep they are and they are afraid that if the Minutemen project succeeds it will show the world how ineffective the BP is under the direction of its present supervisors. Washington DC does not want us to succeed.

We still have news media running all over the place interviewing everyone and taking pictures of everything in sight. A TV crew from Russia showed up today. Crews from Japan and Australia have been here also.

Barb volunteered for a 2-hour shift in the communications center today when we got back in from the line. Then we stood security on the main gate from 8 to 12. It was quiet for a change but I thought I was back in Washington state it was so cold out there.

Minutemen patrols observed and reported numerous attempts of groups attempting to cross last night in the mountains. The BP caught some of them and some got away. (They call them “get-a-ways”)

News Flash: The US Government announced today a plan that will tighten all borders by 2008. Unfortunately Mexico announced a plan to have all their people here by 2007.

Now Bush pay attention, we said:”CLOSE THE BORDERS”

Until tomorrow!!!!


Eyewitness report from the Arizona/Mexico border from two Minuteman volunteers

Jack & Barb

April 10, 2005

This is the tenth day of the Minutemen project and we are still determined to hold the line. Local law enforcement and individual Border Patrol Agents speaking off the record, say the illegal immigration has virtually stopped in the sector patrolled by the Minutemen. We have destroyed the historic immigration myth that it impossible to stop illegal immigrants.

Are you paying attention President Bush!?

Got up this morning and went out on the Naco Line and manned an observation post from 9A to 2P. The Mexican Federal Police (Federale) across the border were very active today. Directly across from our observation post is a group of oak trees, a large ravine, and a couple of railway trestles. The Mexican government has set up a large water point in these trees where illegals can get water and lay up and wait for opportunities to enter the US. The Mexicans call it Camp Freedom. The Federales were congregating in this area all day, which is unusual. We watched them - ­they watched us. Touché!!!

Lou Dobbs came out to the Naco line this morning to look around. He is going to be doing a TV show about the Minutemen and wanted first hand information for his programs.

A couple of locals that stopped by today stated they had never seen so many Border Patrol in the area we are observing as they have since we have been there. One local stated they have trouble getting them to respond when they spot illegals coming across and report it. Most of the locals thank us over and over for drawing attention to the problems along the border. There are some who don’t want us here for whatever reasons. Everyone has the draw his or her own conclusions. It is a rumored some conspire with the smugglers. Anything is possible down here.

Returned to the camp at 2P to assist in the communications center, keeping records, answering phones and manning radios. It is a very busy place at times.

Oh yeah, on the way back to camp from the line Barb and I spotted an illegal walking along the highway about a half mile from camp. We notified the Border Patrol and he was picked up.

Lots of action out by the mountains last night. Numerous spottings of attempted crossing by Minutemen. Rumor has it the illegals and drug smugglers are backed up in the mountains because we are watching this part of the border so closed. They are running out of food and water and some of them are making desperate runs across. We spot and report them and the Border Patrol manages to catch some of them. It is like a three ring circus down here. Like a game of hide and seek everyday. Border Patrol searches them out, apprehends them, gives them food and water, medical care if they need it, and a free ride back to Mexico. Then they turn around and do the same thing the next night. Sometimes with the same person. Burn out must be high for them.

Stood security at the gate from 8P to 12P cold but uneventful. Another day for the Minutemen

Don’t worry though; King George didn’t like the original Minutemen either.

Until Tomorrow!!!!!!!!


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderintruders; borderinvasion; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; criminalinvaders; donutwatch; govwatch; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; mmp
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To: henderson field

If I were a Border Patrol agent and couldn't do my job any better than they do theirs, I would be ashamed of myself. I can guarantee you that 90% of the people working in the private sector have standards of performance so much higher that there's no comparison.

I think it has been determined that the competency of the BP agents is not an issue here. These folks have been kept from doing their jobs by ass kissing management personnel. We have heard this from BP agents for a long time now. If empowered, I guarantee you these agents would control illegal immigration, but until such time as our leadership in DC decides to let them, this invasion will continue.


21 posted on 04/12/2005 9:31:24 PM PDT by conshack
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To: injin

Enrique Morones...... is billed as a human rights activist
TRANSLATION:
Pest and lawbreaker


22 posted on 04/12/2005 9:33:52 PM PDT by dennisw ("Sursum corda")
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To: HiJinx

I give Sean Hannity less than 50% chance of coming down to the border to see the Minuteman operation. But I'm pulling for him to do so!!


23 posted on 04/12/2005 9:36:19 PM PDT by dennisw ("Sursum corda")
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To: ClintonBeGone

DP
DP
DP


24 posted on 04/12/2005 9:36:40 PM PDT by conshack
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To: HiJinx

Bump


25 posted on 04/12/2005 9:38:04 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #18 - Anyone who doesn't believe as you do is intolerant.)
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To: Spiff
Local law enforcement and individual Border Patrol Agents speaking off the record, say the illegal immigration has virtually stopped in the sector patrolled by the Minutemen.

Thanks for the update. The MM project has proven a resounding success and there's nothing anyone in the government or leftist media can say to change that fact.

26 posted on 04/12/2005 9:39:58 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Spiff; Dane
Your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. Jack & Barb were talking about Border Patrol management or mismanagement as the case may be. We need more Border Patrol Agents and they need better resources and competent, committed management.

Sure, you have to blame someone (management, Washington D.C., the Bushes) besides the first responders - otherwise your entire facade goes up in smoke. You sound like a postal employee - its always someone else's fault.

27 posted on 04/12/2005 9:41:58 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: HiJinx

Terry Anderson is supposed to come down next week. Would love to see the ACLU moniters pull the race card on him. LOL

http://www.theterryandersonshow.com/


28 posted on 04/12/2005 9:44:05 PM PDT by occutegirl (George III did not like Minutemen either.)
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To: Spiff
"Billions for Homeland Security, but not one penny for a border fence!"


29 posted on 04/12/2005 9:55:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Is there a reason you can't stick to a discussion of the posted article?

OBTW, thanks for the Bump.


30 posted on 04/12/2005 9:56:14 PM PDT by HiJinx (Report Illegals ~ 1-877-USBP-HELP (872-7435))
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To: conshack
FOQNA ClintonBeGone's famous post 26:

You couldn't beat the Mexicans lead by brother Santa Anna at the Alamo - You're certainly not going to beat Mara Salvatrucha with a bunch of fat old ex-supply sergeants.

31 posted on 04/12/2005 9:57:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Go back to bed. You Are Outnumbered.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382532/posts


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382510/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382557/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382532/posts

Way Outnumbered.


32 posted on 04/12/2005 10:00:24 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: ClintonBeGone
"Second, the supporters of the MM absolutely hate the private sector because of who they hire when they hire criminal aliens"   (error correction added, no need to thank me!)

But thank you for outing yourself and making it clear to all who read this thread, who has chosen to stand alongside the criminal aliens, Vincente Fox, Aztlan, La Raza, MEChA, MALDEF, ACLU, LULAC and the international terrorist gang MS-13, versus those who stand ready to defend American sovereignty and secure our borders from invasion.

Hope those investments you made in Mexico don't go belly up on you when we secure the border (not)!

--Boot Hill

33 posted on 04/12/2005 10:01:11 PM PDT by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: HiJinx
Is there a reason you can't stick to a discussion of the posted article?

I certainly did. Was it the big words I used that confused you?

34 posted on 04/12/2005 10:04:11 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
"You sound like a postal employee..."

Getting close to that line again, ClintonBeGone. Are you trying to get the thread deleted or sent to the smoky backroom?

--Boot Hill

35 posted on 04/12/2005 10:04:15 PM PDT by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: axes_of_weezles

Maybe not.


36 posted on 04/12/2005 10:04:47 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
The MM project has proven a resounding success and there's nothing anyone in the government or leftist media can say to change that fact.

How would you objectively measure sucess?

37 posted on 04/12/2005 10:05:13 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
You sound like a postal employee - its always someone else's fault.

In this instance, he's correct. Those above the fray fail to recognize how our porous souther border causes us to appear weak internationally and how this threatens our endeavors elsewhere such as Iraq and Afganistan.

Better that the illegals perceive us as "tough hombres" than a soft-underbelly to be exploited at will by peasants, gangsters, and who-knows-what at their descretion.

38 posted on 04/12/2005 10:09:16 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: Spiff; HiJinx

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050413-122548-7600r.htm

Border project declared success


By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


PALOMINAS, Ariz. -- The chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus yesterday declared the "Minuteman Project" border vigil a success and invited its organizers to Washington next week to meet with members of Congress.
"Congratulations on your immensely successful Minuteman Project," Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, said in a letter. "By all reports you have accomplished your primary mission, which was to draw public attention to the deplorable and unacceptable conditions on our borders.


"You have demonstrated that a physical presence on the border will deter illegal crossings, and the world can now see this," he said.
By the U.S. Border Patrol's count, the apprehensions so far this month are down by more than 50 percent.
Mr. Tancredo also said Mexican military units have diverted migrants east and west away from a 20-mile stretch of Arizona-Mexico border being patrolled by the Minutemen, "showing that the Mexican government can control the exits if it chooses to do."
Minuteman organizer James T. Gilchrist last night told a gathering of the Minuteman volunteers at the organization's command center that Mr. Tancredo had encouraged him to shut down the project, saying the mission had been "accomplished." But Mr. Gilchrist said although he and co-organizer Chris Simcox would travel to Washington next week, the Minuteman patrols would continue until April 30, as has been planned.
"We're staying until the 30th," he told the Minuteman gathering, which responded with applause and whoops of support. "We will stay on the line and adhere to our long-standing policy of no contact and no confrontation with any illegal aliens seeking to enter the United States."
The Minuteman volunteers, operating from 16 observation posts east and west of Naco, have spotted and reported to the Border Patrol more than 500 foreigners crossing into this country illegally since limited patrols began March 30.
Minuteman volunteers patrolled the 20-mile border segment 24 hours per day, seven days per week, working in three rotating shifts.
The observation posts included eight locations east of Naco along a dirt road separating Arizona and Mexico. Eight other posts were located along Highway 92 west of here at the base of the Coronado mountains -- a favorite smuggling corridor for both aliens and drugs.
U.S. law-enforcement authorities said several hundred foreigners are thought to be holed up in the mountains unable to make connections with smugglers along the highway because of the Minutemen.
There have been no corroborated reports of violence involving the volunteers and the illegals. One Mexican national complained that he been detained illegally by Minuteman volunteers, but the accusation was ruled unfounded by the Cochise County Sheriff's Department and the Mexican Consulate in Douglas.
That alien was photographed wearing a T-shirt that said, "Bryan Barton caught me crossing illegally into the United States and all I got was this lousy T-shirt." Mr. Barton was dismissed by Mr. Gilchrist because of the incident and escorted out of the Bible college here where volunteers are staying.
In his letter, Mr. Tancredo said he wanted Mr. Gilchrist and Mr. Simcox to meet with him and other members of the Immigration Reform Caucus.
"I want you to tell the Congress the story of the Minuteman Project and what you accomplished," Mr. Tancredo said. "Congratulations on a job well done."


39 posted on 04/12/2005 10:10:32 PM PDT by occutegirl (George III did not like Minutemen either.)
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To: Spiff
News Flash: The US Government announced today a plan that will tighten all borders by 2008. Unfortunately Mexico announced a plan to have all their people here by 2007.

The US government knows that. They'll be tightening the borders against the Guatemalans to protect the jobs of the Mexicans.

40 posted on 04/12/2005 10:14:18 PM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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