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Rush is talking about quitting radio. What is he talking about? What happended?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | April 12, 2005 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/12/2005 10:31:34 AM PDT by TFine80

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To: subterfuge
subterfuge said: why do you diefy one of the leading atheists in all of history?

Protagoras replied: I never did that. Now, it would be better if we didn't exchange anymore.

subterfuge, you nailed it! That's why Protagoras has no good response to you, other than the sound of crickets.

Why would someone simultaneously claim to be a Christian in a tagline and have a screenname of a famous atheist? Only because she is a phony, someone who pretends to be what she is not.

Most likely, she is a long term or deep cover mole who tries to stir up a hornet's nest of comments by raising irrelevant issues (e.g., Rush complains about people reaching into his pockets and Protagoras absurdly ascribes it to drugs). She signed up right after the first March for Justice that got huge publicity for FR. The publicity generated many new good FReepers, but also led to a substantial number of trolls, apparently including Protagorus.

It's best not to feed the trolls, but not always easy to do. I usually ignore them, but my first response #68 was based on the mistaken hope that Protagorus was not a liberal in disguise.

If you look at her posting history, you'll also see several racist slurs against Asians, which simply is part of the liberal attempt to falsely depict conservatives as racists.

121 posted on 04/12/2005 1:56:21 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Phantom Lord

I saw that story, but the guy did work in NY 1/4 of the time and telecommuted the rest of the time. At least I think that is the story that you are talking about.

The guy could try to sue in federal court by claiming that NY is violating his due process rights and the commerce clause of the Constitution by taxing him on income made when he lived in TN.

Without deciding that this claim (i.e., NY is unconstitutionally overreaching with its taxes on income earned when residing in another state) should NECESSARILY prevail, this claim against NY has much to commend it.

Unfortunately, the federal courts are too busy finding new rights that were never in the Constitution (sexual practices can't be criminalized, etc.) in order to consider such a meritorious claim.


122 posted on 04/12/2005 3:23:15 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Phantom Lord
That 5 day rule was just changed by NYs highest court. Now, even if you NEVER set foot in NY but your employer is in NY you have to pay NY income tax on 100% of your earnings

What a money-grubbing bastion of liberal caca that state is!

123 posted on 04/12/2005 3:29:31 PM PDT by madison10
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To: TFine80
He is human. . .have always admired his ability to 'stay with it'. . .talk it through; on even the worst news stories/issues et al.

I hope he continues to stay strong. . .we need him! So let's not take it personally. . .or jump him. . .so to speak; if he is having a bad day.

Hang in there, Rush! Nobody does it as well as you do.

124 posted on 04/12/2005 3:45:33 PM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Gabz
IBM has its global headquarters in NY. ....
my husband does work for IBM.....we've already got DE and VA taxing his income, we can't afford NY on top of it.

Is IBM incorporated in Deleware (that's pretty common) otherwise what hook do they have to tax him...unless he working DE and you live in VA. The only time I've run up against being a resident of on state while living in another was when I was in the Air Force. My salary was not taxed by the state where I was stationed, but my wife's teacher salary was. However we got credit in our home state for the taxes we'd paid to the "stationed" in state.

It seems to me that there should be a federal law or even a Constitutional amendment if required, such that incomes could only be taxed in a single state, with federal rules (the power to make them would be in the amendment if an amendment were required) dictating which state got to tax your income.

Otherwise the next thing the states would do would be to tax all employees of any company doing buisiness in their state. Which would mean that many folks would pay taxes to all 50 states, and the District of Columbia. I'm sure that would suit the tax and spenders just fine, but it would cause massive distortions in the economy. Maybe everyone could work for an employee leasing company in their state of residence, and then be leased to the company they actually worked for. That might even have other advantages other than just the tax ones, for both the companies and the workers.

125 posted on 04/12/2005 3:47:04 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: madison10
( Now, even if you NEVER set foot in NY but your employer is in NY you have to pay NY income tax on 100% of your earnings). . ."What a money-grubbing bastion of liberal caca that state is!"

That makes for more than a bad day. . .and yes; what a . . .state, NY is. . .

126 posted on 04/12/2005 3:48:04 PM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: BillF
You are thinking of the same story/court ruling. The problem is that the court ruling declared income from "A NY source" as 100% taxable. NOT income earned while physically in NY.

The guy in question was more than willing to pay NY State income tax on the portion of his income earned while he was physically in NY. The court declined that offer and ruled that 100% of his income from the "NY Source", meaning company based in NY, is taxable.

127 posted on 04/12/2005 3:48:31 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: BillF

I appreciate the thoughtful response.

Rush is a special case for me because seemes to lack any humility, and all of his problems were foreseeable.

He shouldn't be bellyaching about these Liberal governments making his life miserable. What did he expect?

I'll try to curtail the name-calling,that's what libs do. I know better.


128 posted on 04/12/2005 3:51:55 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Williams
Wait, you mean Texas somehow runs one of the largest staes with zero income tax?

Our sales tax is higher than most states in the "heartland", and local property taxes are pretty high as well, in spite of the state providing a good chunk of the school funding, even though the school tax is far and away the highest property tax. We also have something called Robin Hood, which sees a handfull of supposedly "wealthy" districts" sending part of their property tax revenues to Austin to be sent to those with less valuable property to tax. The Courts have declared the RH plan unconstitutional, but not for any good reason, but rather because it still doesn't transfer enough dollars to the "poor" school districts. The Legislature has, or thinks they have, found a way around the "Get a Rope" "obstacle", by levying a new tax, based on payrolls, but levied on the employer not the employee. It's still an income tax though, because it's based on the amount of the payroll not on a per employee basis. It's an income tax by another name. Of course it's being pushed by the Repupblicans in the Leg, and by George Bush's successor as Governor, Perry, who is also an Republican. The whole thing is pretty disgusting. Elect the first all republican state government since Reconstruction, and what do we get, more taxes, by using the Courts to "force" the Legislature to "do something".

If the state senate passes the bill, HR3, which has already passed the House, then those ropes may yet come out.

129 posted on 04/12/2005 3:57:56 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Williams
Not sure how I feel hearing him vent about his personal tax problems affecting his megamillion empire.


Hold on there Chester! So what if someone has lot of money? Does it make it any less wrong for a government to use police powers to extract private property from a citizen
Methinks you have a bad case of class warfare poisoning.
130 posted on 04/12/2005 3:58:29 PM PDT by Cowman (I wish they all could be double barreled girls)
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To: Cowman
Methinks I did not tune in Rush to hear him vent about his own tax problems, without giving details, on April 12 when I'd like to think he has accountants available to look into this more than three days before tax day. He was complaining that he had to spend "four hours" dealing with this last night. Sorry Rush, most people spend more time than that on their taxes, and we all have to pay them. I wasn't aware Rush's position on taxes is based on what's in his personal interest on a given day. According to the posters here this problem affects many and I don't think Rush was at his best railing about people reaching into "my back pocket!"

Maybe he would have been more effective if he took a deep breath and planned a show on this issue, rather than making it sound like he was hoping to scare somebody into giving him his way.

131 posted on 04/12/2005 4:12:48 PM PDT by Williams
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To: TFine80

Maybe his ratings came in?


132 posted on 04/12/2005 4:13:11 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: El Gato
Is IBM incorporated in Deleware (that's pretty common) otherwise what hook do they have to tax him...unless he working DE and you live in VA.

I do believe they are incoorporated in Delaware - but that has nothing to do with it as far as my research has told me.

We lived in Delaware until 2 years ago. He still has the same service territory (DE, MD, VA) as when we lived there - but neither VA or MD were withheld except for a period of time where he had a 6 month stint at one location in Maryland. That amde sense because he was only working in Maryland at one location.

Delaware does not have a reciprocity agreement regarding withholding taxes with other states for out-of-state residents and because he is "technically" assigned to a Delaware field office are the only plausable explanations I can come up with for the Delaware withholding.

We are tyring to get him "assigned" to the field office in Maryland to solve this problem, if they won't just designate our house as a VA field office.

I guess like everyone else it is just this week that has me growling about this situation. We still owe VA money because of this situation with DE :(

133 posted on 04/12/2005 4:20:13 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Thanks for the civil response.

Relative to lack of humility, Rush's pomposity is, IMHO, a self-parody, and a funny one at that.

I bellyache all the time about media bias and libs over-taxing and over-regulating me. I guess you could say that I should expect the media/liberals to behave that way. I don't think that reasonable expectations of media/liberal behavior should invalidate otherwise valid criticism of the media/liberals.

NY's highest court recently affirmed in a 4-3 decision that NY taxes apply to the complete yearly income of a guy who lives in TN 3/4 of the year. Maybe you just don't happen to like Limbaugh, but I'll bet that you are sympathetic to that poor TN guy stuck with the huge tax bill for income earned outside of NY? (You're entitled not to like Rush, but I still wish that more time was spent verbal attacking Dan Rather, Harry Reid, Al Franken, Michael Moore, etc.)


134 posted on 04/12/2005 5:00:21 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: All
Rush is fine. Just aggravated and caught off guard. He has stuff going on in his office and it is sweeps. There will be a turn around in the next day or so. Also, watch for the outpouring support in the military the next few days. He has a bee in his bonnet.
135 posted on 04/12/2005 5:39:18 PM PDT by duck duck goose
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Nice choice...but her biological clock is ticking. Rush is still safe...his dad had kids in his 50s.


136 posted on 04/12/2005 8:13:59 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: BillF
If you look at her posting history, you'll also see several racist slurs against Asians, which simply is part of the liberal attempt to falsely depict conservatives as racists.

Please reference the posts you claim.

138 posted on 04/13/2005 10:10:30 AM PDT by Protagoras (Christ is risen.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Right, but the NY source rule is of dubious constitutionality.

Suppose a NY company hires a NJ real estate broker to help find a NJ property for the company. NJ broker finds the property and then gets a check from NY company for his work. Does he have to pay NY income tax, even though he never worked in NY? Apparently, under the bare majority rule of NY's highest court, he would.


139 posted on 04/13/2005 1:21:56 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: subterfuge

Clarifying my #121 about racist slurs against Asians, that other person, per her profile, used to use the following as a tagline:

"You can't tell a deaf Chinaman anything by whispering in French."

Then there is http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378490/posts?page=119#119 in which she uses the word "Japs" (and not in quoting another).

Again, it is highly likely that the person is a liberal troll using racist slurs against Asians to reinforce the liberal myth that conservatives are racists.


140 posted on 04/13/2005 1:35:17 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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