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To: kcvl
As usual, the GOP is more than a few days late...I posted this info and more (#66) on 03/28/05. I was chided for my comments about hiding granny in the fruit cellar because she's next (Alzheimer's). Well, people...there is a culture of death out there and the sooner we realize it and deal with it, the better off we will be. Cranford is a real piece of work...from my post linked above:

In recent years, medical ethics and the law have been twisted in frightening ways. Food and water have been reclassified as "medical treatments" if they’re administered "artificially." Dr. Ronald Cranford has even testified in court that spoon-feeding may be classed as "artificial," presumably because helping people to eat is somehow unnatural.

Dr. Cranford has been an instrumental force in redefining the determination of death. Death was once defined as the time when the heart permanently stopped beating. Through Dr. Cranford’s activism, it was changed to coincide with the cessation of brain waves. The motivation for this redefinition was so that human organs would survive the death of the patient and be available for transplant.

Dr. Ronald Cranford was a member of the board of the former Euthanasia Society of America, which eventually merged with Partnership for Caring...Cranford is a member of the board of directors of the Choice in Dying Society, which promotes doctor-assisted suicide and euthanasia. He was also a featured speaker at the 1992 national conference of the Hemlock Society.

Now if that don't scare the hell out of you...I don't know what will.

14 posted on 04/12/2005 8:07:05 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Thanks.


15 posted on 04/12/2005 8:09:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ravingnutter

I missed your original post--good comments, and you've touched on something that should scare the dickens out of anyone, that is, except someone who actually prefers death to life--or those who hope to profit in some way from someone's death.


16 posted on 04/12/2005 8:10:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: ravingnutter
Dr. Cranford has been an instrumental force in redefining the determination of death. Death was once defined as the time when the heart permanently stopped beating. Through Dr. Cranford’s activism, it was changed to coincide with the cessation of brain waves. The motivation for this redefinition was so that human organs would survive the death of the patient and be available for transplant.

HOORAY, someone finally posted my thinking. Organ donations are the entire reason we are dealing with issues regarding life-support (if you want to call it that). Many have paid the price for a few.

My contention is that the medical profession should evaluate the circumstances very carefully prior to attaching their so called life-support. Killing people who died naturally (without life-support) or would have died naturally (without life-support) at a later date for the sake of organs is not acceptible to me. And NO I do not believe organ donation is pro-life.

Death is when the heartbeat stops. Can't be anything else and to my knowledge there is no instrument in use that keeps the heartbeat beating. If we are able to believe life begins at conception when there are no brain waves how is it such a leap to believe life ends when the heart stops beating and the person cannot be revived in a minimal amount of time? Terri should not have been revived after 10 minutes and I wonder why she was if the intent was to kill her later.

21 posted on 04/12/2005 8:48:31 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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It does "scare the hell" out of this FReeper.

And his association with the Euthanasia Society, now called " Partnership in Caring", also included membership of mary labyak, administrator of hospice where Terri resided, and membership of george felos, a frequent speaker of the American Hemlock Society.

Would you just not LOVE to have one of your loved ones held in a hospice, in a NON Terminally ill state, yet disabled, and have mary labyak and george felos CONTROLLING his or her RIGHT TO LIFE?

The Schindler's faced this every day for the last FIVE YEATRS. Imagine if Terri were your child.

Combing felos and labyak with a monster guardian, 'Michael Schiavo the Cruel', Mr. 666 himself, and you have a recipe for euthanasia. These sick souls were backed by the ACLU, the george soros 'death in America' project and other very well financed groups....is it any WONDER that the Schindler's had a battle no regular American family could possibly battle effectively?

Cranford wrote an article in 1997 that is quoted in above posts, published in the op-ed of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, wherein he calls for NO FEEDING or WATERING of those with late stage ALZHIEMERS or MENTAL DISORDERS that show, IN HIS OPINION, no hope of progression towards normality.

He is a monster.

His testimony regarding Terri was NOT QUESTIONED by judge greer, but rather USED to break a TIE between three doctors used by the monster and three used by the Schindlers.

This physician, dr. cranford, would have BEEN WELL RECEIVED back in Germany in the 1930's wherein the Weimer Republic was SUCCESSFUL in getting the public to see the disabled and very sick as BURDONS who needed the mercy of DEATH~ It all began there....moved onto the homeless and infirm not institutionalized, to the homosexuals and the political opponents ending with the death decree to the Jews during hitler's reign....because the Jews were seen as an inferior race.

dr. cranford, Doctor Death, the amazing creep who believes that HE is right in putting the 'QUALITY of LIFE' over the 'SANCTITY of LIFE', mentions in his op-ed article, that societys MUST consider the expense of keeping the very ill and disable alive through food and water....he is a monster. A ghoul. And terrifically sick.

32 posted on 04/12/2005 10:23:44 AM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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