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I am stating that almost every piece of "evidence" used by the Schindler supporters is worthless. There is no argument used based upon anything but emotion and hysteria fueled by falsehoods.

Most of what is purported as evidence, when examined, cannot stand. But what can be expected from those hurling around charges of "murder", "conspiracy", "corruption" without the slightest evidence?

Where did the Schindlers get the money for this decades long distraction? Who was funding this?

I see so things have turned around so much in this country that you now need evidence to prevent a woman from being killed. It appears as if we have come a long way in this country just to take a giant step back into the days of barbarism.

You are calling Ohioan a liar and claiming false evidence. I don't know why I will bother you since you are quoting Felos-lingo, and usually that means you are hopeless, but here goes anyway.... Try THIS bit of 'worthless Shindler evidence' which was entered into court records:

she is not just a head on a pillow. She can't respond much but she can respond, and she does respond a little bit, not much. But enough to give ... hope.

SO, now you are probably FUMING: why the NERVE of those dad-blasted SCHINDLERS making up cr@p like THAT!!!!!

Well here is that same evidence again, in context:

November 1992 - Opening Statements, Medical Malpractice Trial [MICHAEL's ATTORNEY speaking]

You'll find from the evidence past medical bills and lost earnings are in the neighborhood of $500,000, and to care for her in the future and compensate her for lost earnings, obviously, she cannot work. And if she lives a normal life expectancy, fifty-one years, and the cost of that, depending on whether or not in an institution or Mike takes her home is between 12 and 16 million dollars. They say, well, she doesn't have a normal life expectancy. You'll hear if she receives proper treatment, there's no reason why she shouldn't. And she is not just a head on a pillow. She can't respond much but she can respond, and she does respond a little bit, not much. But enough to give him hope.

You see, it was only Michael who started lying in 1993 after getting her money. ALL the others, the caregivers, nurses, the specialists who spent lots of time with her, the priests, her parents, her friends, the paralegals and attorneys, they KEPT RIGHT ON noticing that she was somewhat responsive, right on up thru 2005.

And THAT's just on the one half of the judge Greer 'opinion' that condemned her. The other half is whether or not Michael is lying about Terri's wishes to die.

Lots of people, Diane Meyers, Jan Casler, Cyndi Brashers Shook, Trudy Capone, the four Schindlers, and I believe others, all offered good evidence from before her 'attack', and from statements Michael spoke prior to 1993, that she WANTED to live, even in a situation like that. Other evidence pointed to Michael repeatedly saying the two had NEVER talked about this.

The Schindlers position is the DEFAULT position the law is SUPPOSED to assume unless the situation is 'clear and convincing' otherwise. Greer discounted and ignored all the non-Michael evidence, even though Schindlers had no money to gain by lying.

Greer chose to believe Michael instead for some unexplicable reason.

I am stating that almost every piece of "evidence" used by the Schindler supporters is worthless. There is no argument used based upon anything but emotion and hysteria fueled by falsehoods.

You must be looking at different documents than the ones I have looked at. If you look at the discharge document I linked you to, you will see that even in that report, Terri made progress. There are others that I didn't link you to that show she made further progress. That's not emotion, hysteria, nor falsehood.

Most of what is purported as evidence, when examined, cannot stand.

What do you mean stand? When examined by whom? Sure, the court didn't take this stuff into consideration. That's partly because I think the Schindlers had lousy legal representation when their case first went before the judge. That doesn't mean that it couldn't have stood in front of a court if a different lawyer had represented them from the get go. It aligns much better with the idea of "you get what you pay for". Michael could afford a high-priced attorney for two reasons: 1.) he had won $300,000 in 1993 for loss of consortium and 2.) the judge approved of lawyers' fees for him coming out of Terri's malpractice fund. The Schindlers had nothing like that, so their lawyer worked pro-bono for a long time.

But what can be expected from those hurling around charges of "murder", "conspiracy", "corruption" without the slightest evidence?

You may have lumped the whole group of Terri supporters into the same mix based on the posts of a few. Don't overgeneralize. There's a lot more people reading the Terri threads and who support her cause than actually post. I have requests from many FR members to be on the ping list and I rarely see them post on the topic. As for the "slightest evidence", again, I assure you that there is plenty of evidence to suggest that something was amiss in the way Terri's case panned out. A good and honest person could see that if they looked at enough information. You seem to dislike the RAT media based on your tagline. Maybe you didn't do as much looking into things as you could have. There are definitely some FReepers who will admit that they are for the euthanasia agenda (who knows, maybe you're one of them?). Maybe you got some of your info from them. I can't say. I just know that what I've seen and read leads me to believe that Michael was less than honest about his wife's wishes, and that he didn't care enough about her to let her die with her loved ones at her bedside at the moment of death.

Where did the Schindlers get the money for this decades long distraction? Who was funding this?

Hey, I thought you were a super-sleuth! It's not like the Schindlers have hidden anything from view. Their first ill-equipped attorney was Pamela Campbell, then Pat Anderson did most of the pro-bono work. Once they got the Foundation up and running, I'm going to assume that some of the legal fees were paid for by those donations sent to them, though I do not know this for sure. I am gonna take a wild hunch and say that most of the help they've been getting has been donated by various groups who believe in Terri's fight. You might call them wacko right-wing pro-life extremists if you'd like, but that would hardly be accurate.