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1 posted on 04/12/2005 7:20:08 AM PDT by kcvl
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http://www.gopusa.com/news/2005/april/0412_schiavo_doctor1.shtml


2 posted on 04/12/2005 7:20:35 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I saw that interview, and the doctor was abusive, crude, and resorted to name calling. I wouldn't let this "doctor" shovel my sidewalk...


4 posted on 04/12/2005 7:28:01 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel) (Scientology must be stopped from murdering disabled people)
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To: kcvl; Ohioan from Florida

Great find. I'm sure MS was surrounded by this kind of "competence."


6 posted on 04/12/2005 7:37:01 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: kcvl

The issue is not whether Terry Schrivo was in a persistent vegetative state or not....

The issue was as a society should we allow another fellow human starve to death because we determined that their life as it is is less valuable than ours......

Whether Terry Schrivo remained in that state or could have recovered is not germaine...

NeverGore :^)


10 posted on 04/12/2005 7:43:01 AM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: kcvl
As usual, the GOP is more than a few days late...I posted this info and more (#66) on 03/28/05. I was chided for my comments about hiding granny in the fruit cellar because she's next (Alzheimer's). Well, people...there is a culture of death out there and the sooner we realize it and deal with it, the better off we will be. Cranford is a real piece of work...from my post linked above:

In recent years, medical ethics and the law have been twisted in frightening ways. Food and water have been reclassified as "medical treatments" if they’re administered "artificially." Dr. Ronald Cranford has even testified in court that spoon-feeding may be classed as "artificial," presumably because helping people to eat is somehow unnatural.

Dr. Cranford has been an instrumental force in redefining the determination of death. Death was once defined as the time when the heart permanently stopped beating. Through Dr. Cranford’s activism, it was changed to coincide with the cessation of brain waves. The motivation for this redefinition was so that human organs would survive the death of the patient and be available for transplant.

Dr. Ronald Cranford was a member of the board of the former Euthanasia Society of America, which eventually merged with Partnership for Caring...Cranford is a member of the board of directors of the Choice in Dying Society, which promotes doctor-assisted suicide and euthanasia. He was also a featured speaker at the 1992 national conference of the Hemlock Society.

Now if that don't scare the hell out of you...I don't know what will.

14 posted on 04/12/2005 8:07:05 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: tutstar; STARWISE

bttt


17 posted on 04/12/2005 8:11:25 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: kcvl
Another good article dealing with the "slippery slope":

From Small Beginnings: The Road to Genocide

An excerpt:

Dr. Alexander demonstrated in Medical Science Under Dictatorship that by the early 1940s, the German medical profession had become fully implicated with the Nazi regime and its death camps. Moreover, he outlined how this monstrous outcome originated from small beginnings. It started with acceptance of the progressive and rational idea that some people had a life not worthy to be lived and were a burden to society and to the state. Once this idea was acted upon, and physicians became accustomed to it, the extermination system expanded to include all people considered for any reason to be a financial burden to the state, followed by all those considered to be disloyal or a threat to the government and, ultimately, anyone considered undesirable by the government.

18 posted on 04/12/2005 8:14:25 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: kcvl
Reading a story today about how a college kid who put a parachute on his pet guinea pig had a DA and animal rights people so up in arms they were filing 'Felony' animal abuse cruelty
charges against him...and the gp parachuted to earth with only minor injuries..

This is not the America of our founding fathers anymore..

imo
20 posted on 04/12/2005 8:43:40 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: kcvl

So, you're saying the doctor didn't update his skills over the intervening decade? My God, I hope this writer never made a mistake he might have learned from.


27 posted on 04/12/2005 10:00:06 AM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: kcvl

Cranford and his supporters are just into killing people, "for their own good."


28 posted on 04/12/2005 10:01:01 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: zip

ping


31 posted on 04/12/2005 10:16:47 AM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: kcvl

I saw Cranford on several programs. He blinked his eyes a lot. Looked creepy. Too bad the media won't revisit the Terri extermination . . . or will they?


37 posted on 04/12/2005 11:15:29 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Rest in Peace, Theresa Marie SCHINDLER - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!)
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To: kcvl

Dr. Humane Aider-and-Abetter of murder.


46 posted on 04/12/2005 12:01:46 PM PDT by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: kcvl

http://gnn.tv/headlines/2121/A_Culture_of_Death_Not_Life

Mae Magouirk safe for now. See Tekgnosis for further details.

Tell the Media to report the REAL Schiavo polls!

http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7351686&type=ME

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/4/emw226586.htm

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/prweb/20050408/bs_prweb/prweb226586_3

My account, etc. of Terri Schindler's Funeral Mass:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2005/04/terris_funeral_.html

Main page:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com


47 posted on 04/12/2005 12:02:02 PM PDT by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: kcvl
Terri Schiavo's diagnosis is of no importance, unless you believe that it is OK to murder persons with severe brain damage who are not going to recover.

I don't, so I don't care what her diagnosis is, or was.

50 posted on 04/12/2005 12:18:55 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: kcvl
he was "105 percent sure" of that diagnosis, but Dr. Ronald Cranford expressed similar certainty about a patient he examined in 1980 who later regained both consciousness and the ability to communicate.

He made the same diagnosis in the Wendland case in Calif in 1997 - even tho the patient was conscience and could operate his wheel chair! Dr. Death gets around - seemingly with one agenda.

for info on the Wendland Case, that also made national headlines: paper, TV and Internet, see link and judges ruling below.

The Judge in this case went to see the patient in person before making his ruling. I have known this judge more than 30 years - a more intelligent, fair and compassionate man I have never known,) We need to keep the WEndland case in our evidence file along with Terri and Mae.

http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/robertsangels/WendlandToLive.html

63 posted on 04/12/2005 4:23:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: kcvl

This guy Cranford appears like a souble of "Kavorkian". I believe this post should be related to members of Congress.


91 posted on 04/13/2005 12:23:14 AM PDT by El Oviedo
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To: kcvl

This guy Cranford appears like a souble of "Kavorkian". I believe this post should be related to members of Congress.


92 posted on 04/13/2005 12:23:28 AM PDT by El Oviedo
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To: kcvl

"Dr." Cranford is wasting my air!


101 posted on 04/13/2005 6:44:30 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: kcvl

Thank you for posting the Article. It just shows how very wrong one opinion can be re: brain damage. I do feel that Cranford thinks little of his patients (and God help anyone who is his patient)who are not "normal" and diagnosis is not his forte for sure. Just watching the videos of Terri was so very disturbing. She followed the balloon, opened her eyes when asked and even opening them wider at one point. How anyone can suggest that this was reflect is an idiot and had another agenda. Pray you never become part of that agenda. If you are alive inside and its to very hard and it takes sometimes YEARS for your brain to reteach those areas that are destroy, but it happens. I am convinced that Terri was alive, knew what
was going on around her and to me this was nothing less than horrific. To the Law she was the legal property of her so called husband who lied to the insurance company. He did not have her best interest in mind and Felos, a creep in his own right was doing MS evil bidding, and then there is Judge Greer, the one person who could have stopped this animal from doing away with Terri. He chose to listen to MS and pro death Dr.s never considering the person Terri was or her well being. To rule endlessly against the parents who wanted to care for her is just beyond belief. She didnt have a progressive illness, even tho MS tried to make it so by slapping her in a nursing home with no light, no therapy. The only light in her life came from her parents and those who loved her. Terri was murdered and we got to watch and witness this atrocity.


109 posted on 04/13/2005 8:48:37 AM PDT by Gimme
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