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Costs of Illegal Immigration to Texans[Senators Threaten Immigration Amendments to War Bill]
FAIR ^ | April 2005 | FAIR

Posted on 04/11/2005 5:25:04 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

Analysis of the latest Census data indicates Texas’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers more than $4.7 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to more than $3.7 billion per year. The annual fiscal burden amounts to about $725 per Texas household headed by a native-born resident.

This analysis looks specifically at the costs to the state for education, health care and incarceration resulting from illegal immigration. These three are the largest cost areas, and they are the same three areas analyzed in a 1994 study conducted by the Urban Institute, which provides a useful baseline for comparison ten years later. Other studies have been conducted in the interim, showing trends that support the conclusions of this report.

Other significant costs associated with illegal immigration exist, and these too should be taken into account by federal and state officials. Even without accounting for all of the numerous areas in which costs associated with illegal immigration are being incurred by Texas taxpayers, the program areas analyzed in this study indicate that the burden is substantial and that the costs are rapidly increasing.

The more than $4.7 billion in costs incurred by Texas taxpayers annually result from outlays in the following areas:

Education. Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in Texas and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Texans spend more than $4 billion annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings. About 11.9 percent of the K-12 public school students in Texas are children of illegal aliens.

Health Care. Taxpayer-funded medical outlays for health care provided to the state’s illegal alien population amount to about $520 million a year.

Incarceration. The uncompensated cost of incarcerating illegal aliens in Texas’s state and county prisons amounts to about $150 million a year (not including local jail detention costs or related law enforcement and judicial expenditures or the monetary costs of the crimes that led to their incarceration). State and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. The total of such payments can generously be estimated at slightly less than $1 billion per year.

The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost areas. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other cost areas such as special English instruction, welfare programs used by the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were also calculated.

While the primary responsibility for combating illegal immigration rests with the federal government, there are many measures that state and local governments can take to combat the problem. Texans should not be expected to assume this already large and growing burden from illegal immigration simply because local businesses or other special interests benefit from being able to employ lower cost workers. The state could adopt measures to systematically collect information on illegal alien use of taxpayer-funded services and on where they are employed. Policies could then be pursued to hold employers financially accountable.

The state could also enter into a cooperative agreement with the federal government for training local law enforcement personnel in immigration law so illegal immigrants apprehended for breaking the law can be expeditiously turned over to the immigration authorities for removal from the country. Similarly, local officials who have adopted “sanctuary” measures that shield illegal aliens from being reported to the immigration authorities should be urged to repeal them.

Texas has also voluntarily adopted policies that add to the cost burdens of illegal immigration. While all states are compelled under a 1982 U.S. Supreme Court decision to provide a free K-12 education to all children, irrespective of their immigration status, they are under no obligation to subsidize education beyond that point. Nevertheless, the Texas legislature and Governor Perry have decided to grant in-state tuition benefits at public colleges and universities to illegal aliens.

It is unreasonable for a state to expect federal assistance to compensate for the fiscal burden of illegal immigration if it is pursuing policies that encourage illegal aliens to come and remain in the state.

The full report is available in html and pdf

April 2005


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agjobs; aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; kennedy; mccain; senbarbaramikulski; senlarrycraig; texas; warbill
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To: azhenfud
A living parent is given precident in stateside adoption cases where a claim for reunification is made, why is this any different?

I offer this example not to be inflammatory, but to emphasize the point of human rights - would you have favored returning a young black boy of 1850 to the Southern plantation from which he fled -- or to shipping a young Jewish boy back to his father in 1940's Nazi Germany?

181 posted on 04/12/2005 9:13:17 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Eagles6
All I can think of is that with chavez being flakey they are concerned a foreign source of oil.

I sorely wish this would become more of the focus of these threads. On one hand we have the ant-illegals, which, while they are correct in principle, are way off base in terms of the current reality. On the other hand, we have people willing cheering on illegal immigration, who for no other reason probably hate the US and everything it stands for and would love to hasten its demise.

The bottom line regarding illegal immigration is no different of how we financed and supported various regimes during the Cold War - the bigger picture was to defeat the USSR. Likewise, the bet here is that we can withstand changing demographics in order to focus on the WOT and not allow it to open a 2nd front in Latin America.

182 posted on 04/12/2005 9:21:50 AM PDT by lemura
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To: ClintonBeGone
"Isn't that how this country started?"

Yes but things went badly for those already here (Indians). Do you want a repeat of that? There is only one sure way to kill a civilization, mass immigration. Numerous examples in history. For a recent example see Kosovo or Lebanon. Allowing mass immigration from Central/South America will result in a USA that looks more like modern day Mexico then the western constitutional republic. The immigrates from Mexico are not coming here to join our civilization, they are coming here to retake what they lost 150 years ago.

183 posted on 04/12/2005 10:08:51 AM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: jpsb
Yes but things went badly for those already here (Indians). Do you want a repeat of that?

I'm sure they don't mind the fact that they now have running water, piped in heating, cars to drive, stores where they don't have to hunt their food, schools for their kids and hospitals for their sick. Sure, I, and they, would be happy to see that repeated.

184 posted on 04/12/2005 10:16:47 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

No, but then those of the cited aren't exactly equitable circumstances to the Gonzales case.


185 posted on 04/12/2005 10:32:46 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud
No, but then those of the cited aren't exactly equitable circumstances to the Gonzales case.

Sentencing one to a life in Cuba is not the equivalent to sending someone back to slavery or a concentration camp? I suspect Alexander Solzhenitsyn, and many others would disagree with you - strongly.

186 posted on 04/12/2005 10:40:09 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone


"if you live in Texas and apply to a Texas university, you pay in state tuition and your residency status IN THE USA, is irrelevant."

That's the problem, if you're an illegal alien you should have to pay out of state tuition, since you wouldn't be a legal resident of the State. Our RINO legislature and Rick Perry passed a law allowing in state tuition for illegals, and deserve to be voted out of office for it.


187 posted on 04/12/2005 10:54:56 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Listen, lets knock off the name calling. If you're not civilized enough to have a polite conversation with someone, what are you doing here?

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. What's the matter CBG? You can't bait me into your traps like you have so many others, so now you are trying the sanctimonious route?

I am laughing too hard to type.

188 posted on 04/12/2005 10:57:01 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: antisocial
That's the problem, if you're an illegal alien you should have to pay out of state tuition, since you wouldn't be a legal resident of the State.

The legal definition of state residency is entirely separated from your immigration status, and the state cant inquire about the later.

189 posted on 04/12/2005 11:03:47 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Yes but things went badly for those already here (Indians). Do you want a repeat of that?

I'm sure they don't mind the fact that they now have running water, piped in heating, cars to drive, stores where they don't have to hunt their food, schools for their kids and hospitals for their sick. Sure, I, and they, would be happy to see that repeated.

So when all 6 billion people on the planet are living as illegal aliens in 1100 sq. ft. homes in an area the size of Texas*, we will all be one big big happy family because we have running water?

As to your assertion that "yea, sure the Native Americans were all displaced by an unstoppable influx of outsiders into their lands, but they are better off now because they have cars", I doubt they would agree now, and I am certain they would not have agreed 300 years ago.

Besides that, we are now more aware as people the tremendous upheavals that massive immigration brings. Examples abound in history.

But comparing the current illegal alien invasion into this country to the expansion and exploration of 300 years ago is a useless exercise ... it is not an appropriate analogy.

We are not talking about unexplored frontiers and vast wilderness areas with scattered tribes of people.

We are talking about a nation, defined by its laws and its borders, being systematically and illegally invaded with the complicity of a foreign government.

We are talking about the illegal industries of people smuggling and document forgery and identity theft that support that lawless invasion of illegal aliens.

We are talking about the National Security implications of those illegal industries and their being tailor made to terrorists intent on following those same well worn paths into this country.

We are talking about the fundamentally unprincipled actions of our Federal Government in forcing law-abiding citizens to support this illegal invasion, first by not enforcing laws, and then by redistributing taxpayer monies to pay for the consequences of not enforcing laws.

You, on the other hand, are talking about pie in the sky notions of 6 billion illegals living happily ever after 1100 sq. ft. homes in Texas, and Elian Gonzales, and overarching Federal control of State governments, and courts overruling the will of the people, and displaced populations being better off because they have tap water.

Maybe thats why your only allies on this site are ACLU Democrats and brain dead thread baiters ... Everyone else on this site has legitimate concerns about illegal immigration and its related problems, and is searching for a solution to the problem. You use every manner of cliche or tortured analogies to deny that there even is a problem.

*See previous post by CBG.

190 posted on 04/12/2005 11:51:37 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

The US has citizens that do all those bad things too. You need to be more open minded. Immigrants have been historically a very good thing for America.

And P.S. I do believe I was the one that brought the indians into this.


191 posted on 04/12/2005 12:22:04 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: spodefly

The US has citizens that do all those bad things too. You need to be more open minded. Immigrants have been historically a very good thing for America.

And P.S. I do NOT believe I was the one that brought the indians into this.


192 posted on 04/12/2005 12:22:13 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Yep, our hospital has out of pocket expenses of about 11 million treating mostly indigent illegals.

Of course we pass this on to local tax payers.

The Federal government refuses to do anything to stop illegal immigration.

To get everyones attention I propose stern measures.

I think all those extra expenses need to be passed on to non border states in the form of taxes.

Maybe with extra taxes some of those who could care less about our border problems would suddenly find it's their problem also.

However, there would be a big fight with the Dimorats.

Nancy Pelosi does not want to dilute the Dimorat voting base by stopping illegal immigration.
193 posted on 04/12/2005 12:40:14 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Did you even read his post? It says that any state offering in-state tuition for illegal aliens must also offer in-state tuition to any US citizen even if they do not live in said state. So this totally contradicts your point as this law is in fact meant to deter giving illegal aliens in-state.


194 posted on 04/12/2005 1:19:47 PM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom
It says that any state offering in-state tuition for illegal aliens must also offer in-state tuition to any US citizen even if they do not live in said state.

How in the world will the state know someone's status if they are prohibited by law from asking? This law was simply put in place to give people like you something to feel good about.

195 posted on 04/12/2005 1:27:43 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

The fact is ,that in the vast majority of states, illegal aliens are not eligible to pay in-state tuiton. Not even Mass allows illegals in-state tuition. Youre either being consciously deceptive or youre ignorant of the facts. Just google any state and in-state tuition for illegals and youll find article after article featuring your compatriots from various "immigrants rights" groups lamenting the denial of in-state tuition to illegals.


196 posted on 04/12/2005 2:03:38 PM PDT by mthom
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To: lemura

"The bottom line regarding illegal immigration is no different of how we financed and supported various regimes during the Cold War - the bigger picture was to defeat the USSR."

Not quite sure what you mean by this.

I believe that illegal immigration is devastating to our country. We have propped up a corrupt administration in mexico for years and they have flooded our country with illegals, criminals and government sponsored dope now backed up with the threat that they'll sell their oil to china.

My grandafther came from Ireland, another great grandfather came from Italy, others came from Scotland and Germany. They came here legally with one desire. To become an American.

This is not what a majority of illegals coming from mexico or china are here for.


197 posted on 04/12/2005 3:19:52 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: mthom

How many times can I say it, if the state doesn't know your immigration status, and you apply from within that state, have graduated from a state k-12 school, you're going to be paying in state tuition.


198 posted on 04/12/2005 7:57:57 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone; antisocial; azhenfud; television is just wrong; jpsb; spodefly
Talk about a dishonest point. All these things are fixed costs

Talk about dishonest. Nothing is for free. Roads don't build themselves and they are not built unless they are needed.

Does anyone really believe, say in the Washington DC area where 1/3 are foreign born, that all the sewage, roads and other infrastructure would even be there if not for the additional people? And what about the cost of usage?

One other point, look at the cost of education. Native population growth is almost zero. Almost every school built is due to the influx of foreign children.

What is the cost to buy the land, build the school, furnish it, staff it, higher-level admin, transportation and supplies? No way, do illegals pay into our system what is extracted. Most legals do not either.

I suspect your "ClintonBeGone" moniker is a front for a liberal trolling FR. But if you are honestly conservative will you answer these questions:

Is illegal immigration good for America? If so, how many people do you think is enough for America to have before our quality of life deteriorates to an unacceptable level - 400 million, 500 million? Please be specific on when you think the flood should be stopped.

If illegal immigration is not good for America, in your opinion, how should we go about halting those who are flaunting our laws when they enter our country? And please tell me which other laws I may ignore that will be to my benefit without fear of prosecution.

If you are for allowing illegal immigration, what should be done for those Americans on the border who's lands are being trashing and destroyed?

If you are for doing nothing about illegal immigration, how do you propose to protect this country from those who would enter it to do us harm, such as Muslim extremists?

The list of questions that I predict you will not fully answer goes on and on.

199 posted on 04/13/2005 4:33:12 AM PDT by HighFlier
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To: HighFlier

Yes. Immigration is good for America.


200 posted on 04/13/2005 6:26:56 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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