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There's a Crack In Our Foundation - (Terri Schiavo; America betrayed her)
GOPUSA.COM ^ | APRIL 12, 2005 | DEBBIE DANIEL

Posted on 04/11/2005 3:54:53 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: astounded

I believe you are wrong.


21 posted on 04/11/2005 5:03:01 PM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: coosamtn

And we better do something about this total disregard of the sanctity of life or all of us are merely cattle waiting for the slaughter that WILL COME.

Is this the very best we can do to shape this country into the country our children and grandchildren will inherit?

We have robbed them of the America we grew up in and are giving them merely a future Nazi country where men will determine that those they consider inferior have no place among the living.


22 posted on 04/11/2005 5:05:45 PM PDT by ClancyJ (The Death Culture Movement - All of us are hosed no matter what we do)
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To: astounded

I love to sit in the sunlight, look around me, listen to music, etc. Terri apparently liked that too. What's wrong with that - that she wasn't earning money, perhaps, which is the only thing that seems to qualify us as decent citizens in the utilitarian handbook most Americans seem to be reading from nowadays.

She might well have been able to eat and drink the "normal way," but her husband didn't allow them to feed her that way. Be that as it may, many people - babies, temporarily handicapped people, old people - cannot eat in the "normal way." Does this mean we should off them?


23 posted on 04/11/2005 5:06:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: CHARLITE

Wonderful post. This is exactly how I felt.


24 posted on 04/11/2005 5:07:00 PM PDT by livius
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To: astounded

Who declared you God? How all-powerful of you, to get to choose whose life is worth living, and whose isn't.


25 posted on 04/11/2005 5:08:11 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: astounded
If you believe life begins at conception why do you NOT believe that life ends when the heart quits beating?

Or is there a new pro-life belief--only for the unborn?

26 posted on 04/11/2005 5:08:23 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: ClancyJ

We can't let it drop. We have to keep emailing and letting our leaders in Washington know how we feel about it. We have to make sure they are reminded each and every day.


27 posted on 04/11/2005 5:09:58 PM PDT by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: astounded

Regarding feeding tubes, my uncle "lived like she did" with a feeding tube for a couple of years, until he lost his life in a serious fall. Not being able to chomp down on a steak was something he regretted, but he loved life, and would never have wanted someone to deny him what life he had left.


28 posted on 04/11/2005 5:12:06 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: astounded
Hate to tell you this, but a feeding tube is not the same as a respirator.

A respirator can be an extraordinary measure after there is absolutely no brain activity. Terri had brain activity consistent with brain damage but not PVS. Food and water is not an extraordinary measure to sustain her life.

29 posted on 04/11/2005 5:12:40 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: CHARLITE

Finally, someone from GOPUSA.com, gets it right.


30 posted on 04/11/2005 5:13:44 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: astounded

IF she couldn't eat and drink the normal way, why did they have armed guards and police arresting kids attempting to bring her water??? OF course she could eat and drink...Nurses that cared for her testified to that in front of the murdering judge...She was on the feeding tube for convenience...That also was testified to...

You have the facts wrong...


31 posted on 04/11/2005 5:33:36 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: astounded
I wouldn't have wanted to live like Christopher Reeves but he eventually adapted and lived a productive and fulfilling life. Maybe I would too. Pulling the plug on a respirator on someone who was brain dead is one thing, starving and dehydrating a brain damaged woman is another.

I don't know whether your father was brain dead or not. If he was then even the most ardent pro-lifers wouldn't argue with what you did.
32 posted on 04/11/2005 5:34:48 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: coosamtn

"each precious little baby"

Now that I have learned....
what partial birth abortion is, I want to not believe a human being could come up with it;
that babies can survive abortions and go on to live and grow into adulthood, and have, I can't believe abortion is in any way right;
that aborted babies who are born alive can sometimes be left on towels in some back room to die, I wonder how people can live with themselves.

I look around now for the elderly at stores, the little old ladies, the infirm. I don't see them much anymore. It's not safe, true, but I never thought they'd be afraid--or have reason to be afraid--of us ordinary folk. I believed we were happy they were out and about, taking in the sights and sounds. After all, how many veterans are disabled now from Iraq?

I never thought we'd do this horrible thing: kill a disabled person by starving and dehydrating her, and prohibit her parents from giving her a drop of water. I also never thought the network media would smile and gloat at something so obviously heinous, but there they were drooling like hyenas. I live here, but sure am glad my pop's not around anymore to see this thing, this thing I don't explain to my older relatives.


33 posted on 04/11/2005 5:37:24 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: GloriaJane
We can't let it drop.

Not when some of us have disabled children and the government can turn around one day and say their life is not worth living.

34 posted on 04/11/2005 5:39:28 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: CHARLITE

why don't they rename this forum the terri schindler schiavo forum?

i mean, like i don't want to seem callous, i was against michael schiavo, but let's move on.

i thought michael to be mean. he could have let her parents, who loved her dearly, re-assume caretaker status.


35 posted on 04/11/2005 5:39:50 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: astounded; All
My father wasted away over a period of months with liver cancer. But the truth is his situation or yours with your father had little to do with the Schiavo case.

From the best of knowledge that I have, and I read a lot on here and elsewhere about Terri she was probably beaten and then choked to within an inch of her life by her husband Michael years ago for spending $80 getting her hair done.

After that it was all down hill for her. If anyone in the world ever deserved a fair shot at life after having it taken away from her over and over and over it was Terri. To sentence her to death the way our non-responsive leaders did is more than a mortal sin as far as I am concerned and I will not be forgetting it anytime soon.
36 posted on 04/11/2005 5:45:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: astounded
Terri Schiavo was not really living - she was being kept alive by a feeding tube because she could not eat the normal way

WRONG!!!!!Terri could eat JELLO, MALTS, etc.....Terri was not ALLOWED by her killer husband to be fed PERIOD. .......and grossly on her deathbed she wasn't even allowed cold water on her lips!!! DON'T GIVE ME THIS she was not MURDERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

38 posted on 04/11/2005 5:51:25 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: GloriaJane
She only needed food and water to live, just like you and I need food and water to live.

I can only hope that when it comes to the death of one of my family members, I don't need your approval.

40 posted on 04/11/2005 6:01:17 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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