[Physicist]

We can say this. Any scientist will tell you that 'you can't create order from disorder'. It's never happened.

OF COURSE you can create order spontaneously from disorder! Fill a glass with salt water (completely disordered) and let the water evaporate. What you get is a salt crystal, as ordered as you please. Happens all the time.

[blakep]

That's entropy physicist. Entropy. Not creating 'order' as in (life) from disorder as in (nothing).

Again, you cannot create order from nothing. Any scientist will come out and tell you that.

It just doesn't happen.

[betty boop]

OF COURSE you can create order spontaneously from disorder! Fill a glass with salt water (completely disordered) and let the water evaporate. What you get is a salt crystal, as ordered as you please. Happens all the time.

And of course YOU know, Physicist, that "order" and "organization" -- particularly self-organization -- are not the same things. "Order" pertains to non-living systems, where organization (self-organization) pertains to living systems. Or so I heard.