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India and China agree to form partnership
Yahoo ^ | 11 April 2005 | AP

Posted on 04/11/2005 4:45:11 AM PDT by Jeff Head

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To: Moorings

Completely agree with you.


101 posted on 04/12/2005 1:38:03 AM PDT by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: Moorings
India is not going to form a military alliance with China. At least not at this stage. There is a lot of distrust toward the communist Chinese in India, built up over many years, that a couple of days of nice smiles, handshakes and promises are not going to wipe away.

In that statement, substitute Russia (Stalin) for India, and Germany (Hitler) for China and you have just as unlikely (actually, at the time I believe it would have been considered even more unlikely) a statement. Yet it happened at the beginning of WWII as those two superpowers carved up Europe.

For sure India is taking care of India here. But China is emerging rapidly in terms of economic influence and military...if such a pact works and if it benefits the Indians, over time, they will naturally mopve further into that sphere of influence. That's all, and that would be disaterous for the US IMHO.

102 posted on 04/12/2005 3:07:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Gengis Khan

See my 101.


103 posted on 04/12/2005 3:07:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Bald Eagle777
They are getting their ducks in a row and they are patient about it. The target will be the US Navy specifically and us in general.

I was not aware of the extent of the pretty much exact copy of the Hummer by the Red Chinese. Apparently, by leaving it there for them to "study" we in essence gave it to them.

104 posted on 04/12/2005 3:48:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head; Moorings
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CHINA, INDIA REACH TRADE AGREEMENT; ONE-THIRD OF WORLD'S POPULATION IN END-TIME ALLIANCE?

105 posted on 04/12/2005 4:16:55 AM PDT by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: sunnysky

>>are not going to invade other countries like they used to...

no, they just immigrate there now and win elections.


106 posted on 04/12/2005 5:23:47 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Jeff Head
Absolute shades of The Dragon's Fury Series. A little too close for comfort quite frankly.

India and Chian are peer competitors. A border and trade agreement is good for all because is reduces the chance of an outbreak of conflict between them. Stability benefits all of us.

BTW, no offense, I am sure your story is good and well researched, but don't you ever tire of hocking your book here?

107 posted on 04/12/2005 7:42:17 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Magnum44
No offense taken.

If asked to stop refering to my books by the management, I will. As it it, the series was and is a project that sends a constitutional and moral message about our current circumstances as a people, along with a potential warning about geo-political conditions. As such, and in answer to your question, no, I do not grow tired of discussing it.

108 posted on 04/12/2005 7:48:43 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: LS

Check out this news about the Sino/Indian strategic agreement...and then the coincidence of it being announced on the exact date (April 11, 2005) that the same news was announced in the first book of my fictional series, written in 2001. Strange.


109 posted on 04/12/2005 7:54:36 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, you're a prophet and don't know it. The only difference between reality and your book is that IF these guys get out of line, they will be slammed so hard and fast that it will make the Franco-Prussian War look long :)


110 posted on 04/12/2005 7:57:34 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

I hope we take the steps necessary now to prevent that from becoming necessary...in a land war in Asia, I am not so sure it will be pout back in the bottle all that fast and without horrendous cost...but I am confidant of the ultimate outcome.


111 posted on 04/12/2005 8:01:06 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
Thank you for not taking offense to the question. My thoughts are this. You are well read, as current as anybody outside intelligence circles, and have a valid viewpoint to contribute. Ones credibility is reduced somewhat when it is revealed that an agenda is present. Sometimes it appears to this outside observer that your valid points and articles are a means to refer back to your product, and as such might be 'colored'.

If I were selling a book, I might do the same I suppose. But your modest tagline really says it all for me. Every time I see that, as a targeted consumer, I am reminded of your product, and I appreciate that reminder more than suggestions that any writer has nailed the future in a fiction series. Not saying thats what your doing either.

Just thoughts. And again, meant well, not an attack.

Regards,

112 posted on 04/12/2005 8:06:17 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff, I'm doing some interesting research for my next book, "A Patriot's History of the American Soldier." One of the things I'm finding is that enemies ALWAYS underestimate the U.S.

In the Mex. war, Mexican generals boldly predicted they would re-take New Orleans and Mobile for Mexico, and some even said they could invade D.C.

It's like the predictions of doom and gloom going into Afghanistan. I disagree with the notion that a "land war in Asia is the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time." It's only wrong if it's fought wrong. The best weapon we have against China is that segment of its population that is oppressed, because they are potential allies---as Mao found out.

113 posted on 04/12/2005 8:06:31 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Magnum44
Thanks...the issue here is that this particular announcement was such a weird coincidence because it does come on the exact date mentioned in the first book in the series, written four years ago. Not meant to say anything special about me or the books per sey...just a weird coincideence...and the fact that I do personally believe that a serious Sino-Indian pact is not good news for our own interests.

Again, thanks for the perspective.

114 posted on 04/12/2005 8:12:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: LS
Oh...I agree. If a war must be fought, it must be fought where it has to be fought, even inon mainland Asia. It's just that I do not expect it will be a push over ala The Bear and The Dragon.

And I agree that the population in China is one of the best weapons we have. In the series the ROC used it early on to some advantage, but because of the prosperity their new economic pacts were bringing in, the government in that series did let it trickle down enough to not be able to take full advantage of it. It is not unitl the end, when the hammer is falling, that the Chinese people rise up in full against their government...and spare us the prospect of a full invasion.

I believe something like that will occur at some point...it's just a matter of how painful it ends up being for us IMHO.

As always, thanks for the good insight and input.

The British (twice), the Spanish, the Mexicans, the Germans (twice), the Japanese, the Koreans and Chinese, and the list goes on through today, have underestimated the US Military fighting man and all who support him. In so doing, what they have really underestimated is the drive for freedom based on republican principles and unalienable rights, and the moral, peaceful life-style that it engenders. Those drives are stronger than power cravings, greed, pure nationalism, hate or any other...and is at the root behind the money we spend, the training we impart, and the latitude we allow our fighting forces and their success IMHO.

115 posted on 04/12/2005 8:20:49 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Gengis Khan

So we gave China our hardware technology and India our software technology and now they are forming an alliance to dominate the world's tech industry.


116 posted on 04/12/2005 8:22:51 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/05/04/11/1352255.shtml?tid=126&tid=219


117 posted on 04/12/2005 8:25:42 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Jeff Head
Your list of who "misunderestimated" us is paraphrased by David Hackett Fischer's "Paul Revere's Ride." I can't do it justice, but it is something like "over the next two hundred years, others would make the same mistake, including European imperialists, Mexican dicatators, communist ideologues, fascist warmongers, and Muslim extremists."

Again, hope you can find the quotation (we may have it someplace in PHUSA), because it really is a good one.

118 posted on 04/12/2005 8:50:38 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: TapTheSource

I think George Soros wrote this.


119 posted on 04/12/2005 9:08:58 AM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: PeterFinn

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1382124/posts?page=4#4


120 posted on 04/12/2005 9:12:42 AM PDT by TapTheSource
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