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Why VERY INTELLIGENT Men Fail With Women
bullz-eye.com ^ | 04/07/05 | by: David DeAngelo, Author of "Double Your Dating"

Posted on 04/10/2005 3:32:35 PM PDT by paltz

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To: arasina

Works for me! ;-)


341 posted on 04/12/2005 8:23:34 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That's exactly the principle I have built my life around, pal! ;-)


342 posted on 04/12/2005 8:24:08 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: arasina

Hahaha - the grand entrance was my idea, yes, but no vegas showgirl headdress! :-)

And anyway, isn't it funny how this topic comes up about 2x a month, and somebody consistently brings up the 'aw shucks, all the women like the jerks and avoid the nice guys!' You can set your watch by it!

This is always fascinating to me, as you know - what might be more interesting is for us to try and figure out why and how that paradigm even came to exist and be so influential.

Amazing stuff!


343 posted on 04/12/2005 8:27:18 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Blurblogger; boris

I don't mind butt-ugly as long as they're smart/mature and have a sense of humor.


344 posted on 04/12/2005 8:32:52 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: exnavychick

We both still have the memory of July 4th on the 22nd floor of the Hilton with fireworks going off at eye level.


345 posted on 04/12/2005 8:42:35 PM PDT by John Lenin (It's not if it feels good do it, it's if it feels <right> do it !)
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To: Rca2000
(1) in the mid to later '80's, A study was made by some prominent psychologists, stating that men should NOT be turned on ,by a woman's dress, in other words, appearance, and clothing, or, lack of such.

Men do get sexually excited by a woman's appearance - it's normal.

(2) Women get upset because men, especially nice men, don't talk to them much.... BUT... a MAN can get CHARGED with HARASSMENT for merely telling a woman "you look nice today", or asking out a woman ONCE, or similar. SO-- how does a man safely approach another woman, without fear of repercussions?

For practical purposes that would only apply in the workplace. A man can safely approach a woman without fear of legal entanglements by just keeping the romantic agenda outside a work environment, and by not being rude.

(3) some women say "all sex with men is rape",

I suspect these women have a 'grab bag' of what I call 'issues' or 'baggage,' and aren't the kind of women I would consider for a healthy relationship.

(4) if women do NOT want men to look at them, WHY then, do they dress in such a way, as to get men to do so?

I think women dress well and flatteringly as much to impress other women almost as they do to impress men. Women like being pretty - it's normal.

Don't take any of this type of stuff too seriously - the truth s none of it has anything to do with attracting a good, compatible woman, and keeping her happy. Let the nutcakes go out and enjoy their misery, if that's what they want. You don't need to find millions of good women, you just need to find one. ;-)

346 posted on 04/12/2005 8:53:57 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Victoria Delsoul

"I don't mind butt-ugly as long as they're smart/mature and have a sense of humor."


Would you settle for 0 of 4?


347 posted on 04/12/2005 8:54:06 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Blurblogger

What do you mean?


348 posted on 04/12/2005 8:55:55 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Nope. Truth, morality, lasting achievement, happiness, peace of mind, plain honesty - any rational person has a hundred things they put above mindless nature. Even when that is family, it is as moral service to others, not programming. Oh and any man whose only motive with women is reproduction is merely a cad.
349 posted on 04/12/2005 8:57:25 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: FairOpinion
Some smart people are nerds, and some nerds are smart, but not all smart people are nerds, and not all nerds are smart.

This is very true and should be noted! A related issue I have noticed is cute women who are not goodlooking enough to be 'hot' but certainly pleasant looking seem to think that since they aren't hot, they 'must be' witty, or they 'must be' smart, or whatever, because they of course 'must' have something on the better looking/better built girls.

Most of the time it isn't true. Hahaha!

350 posted on 04/12/2005 8:59:32 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: hinckley buzzard
I can see how some adolescents might do that, since "nice" is a euphemism for socially unassertive or naive. My impression is that in the long run the real "nice guys" end up with the good women.

That has almost nothing to do with it. 'Nice' in this context usually means going to some pains to not present yourself sexually (which is only partially related to assertiveness, and not necessarilty related to naivete.)

The truth is many males get well past adolescence with the idea that by being nonsexual, they will be rewarded with sexual attention. There is nothing notably 'smart' about that, hahaha!

I don't think nice guys end up with good women - actually they tend to wind up with overbearing, bullying women. A good, strong woman usually connects with a good strong man. That has a bit to do with being nice, and much more to do with being feminine (for a woman) and masculine (for a man).

351 posted on 04/12/2005 9:02:52 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Victoria Delsoul

0 of 4 -- Meaning, would you still love me if I WERE ugly, dumb, immature and had no sense of humor? T'was a little self-deprecating humor. < grin >


352 posted on 04/12/2005 9:05:24 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I don't mind butt-ugly as long as they're smart/mature and have a sense of humor.

You're welcome.

353 posted on 04/12/2005 9:08:25 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Blurblogger

Of course not! Hahahaha


354 posted on 04/12/2005 9:08:54 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Senator Pardek

Sureeeeee! LOL


355 posted on 04/12/2005 9:09:34 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

DANG!


Would you still need me,
Would you still feed me,
When I'm sixty-four?

-- the Beatles


356 posted on 04/12/2005 9:12:07 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

OK - I'm not that funny.


357 posted on 04/12/2005 9:13:20 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: paltz
Ah-hah-hah-hah-hah!

What a hoot.

358 posted on 04/12/2005 9:15:21 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: chris1

Dr. Laura did hit the nail on the head with that - it's a shame that so many women out there think that showing genuine appreciation for their man is somehow a bad quality.

The truth is that men very much want to please their women, and that's the best feedback that that can get. Indeed, I know in my own case (and with many men I know), the path to alienation begins with a sense that I am consistently unappreciated. When I am on that path, it really is only a matter of time before I find a woman who does appreciate me.


359 posted on 04/12/2005 9:15:48 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Blurblogger
When I'm sixty-four?

Don't push your luck, LOL!

360 posted on 04/12/2005 9:16:48 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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