[Brian Allen]

GM got it Right again!

And essentially-insolvent, gangster/bureaucrat-run Japan is now in -- what, its eleventh year of deflation? -- with huge chunks of it's much-vaunted automobile industry owned and/or operated by Ford and GM and a Euro-peon or two -- and all of its designs, as ever, coming out of Southern California.

And India and [Especially] "china" generate much of their turnover [Most of which is criminally syphoned and illegally expatriated] from theft, corruption, graft, counterfeiting -- and foreign investment.

And your point, again, was, exactly?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

[desidude_in_us]

There is some software piracy, but doesnt mean India and China are sustaining themselves by stolen technology from US. I dont think thats an honest depiction of reality.

And as for research being done in this country, C'mon.. everyone knows who is doing the bulk of research in American industrial and technological establishments.. Asians, of course.. Indians, Chinese, Koreans with advanced degrees in engineering.. And they werent "recruited" by US government to be "trained" in those fields.. thats horse sh*t.. they got into grad schools because they are more talented than the locals, have better math skills for one and two, because they are willing to commit the best years of their lives to serious study, unlike the locals who would rather earn money, hit bars every night and get laid ;) than subject themselves to the arduous task of obtaining higher degrees in engineering.

[superiorslots]

GM does not own or run Toyota or Honda but they have shared some car platforms in the past(toyota corolla and chenv Nova for instance). Ford owns a part of Mazda. Toyota and Honda is eating GM's lunch and if things keep going as planned (and GM does not go bankrupt in he meantime) Toyota will be the biggest automaker in the world in 3-4 years.(GM loses 2% marketshare everyyear)

Yes Toyota designs are coming out of California. They do that to be closer to their marketplace and to have a feel culturely what the americans want and the cars are designed by americans for the most part in Ca.. Toyota also has R&D in Europe and other countries as well for each specific marketplace including a new plant in china.

Brian I would never say never to what may happen with china or india. Don't look at the USSR as an example. The US never sent factories and millions of jobs to russia in their communist heyday.

[Cronos]

And essentially-insolvent, gangster/bureaucrat-run Japan is now in -- what, its eleventh year of deflation? -- with huge chunks of it's much-vaunted automobile industry owned and/or operated by Ford and GM and a Euro-peon or two

Slots, why don't you let BA sleep? He seems to forget that Toyota is now the second largest automobile corp in the world and would overtaek GM before the decade is out. He seems to forget that Honda and Suzuki are still major players ont heir own right and that Nissan is in PARTNERSHIP with Renault.