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Patriotic, Peaceful Muslims - (can this be genuine?..or is it a ploy?)
HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE.COM ^ | APRIL 7, 2005 | ROBERT SPENCER

Posted on 04/08/2005 7:01:56 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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1 posted on 04/08/2005 7:01:57 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

http://www.muslimsforbush.com


2 posted on 04/08/2005 7:05:15 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: CHARLITE
"There are many things in Muslim Scripture that need to be reshaped and reframed and reinterpreted, so that they cannot be used by terrorists to justify homicide bombings and honor killings."

Evidently.

3 posted on 04/08/2005 7:22:33 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: CHARLITE

The burden of proof is on them. Aren't they a little late?


4 posted on 04/08/2005 7:30:12 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: mdittmar

Probably funded in some way by CAIR, whatcha think? Considering an earlier article I read about a book that was recently published about how Mooslims are trying to undermine our society by appearing "moderate"


5 posted on 04/08/2005 7:33:36 PM PDT by landorepub
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To: freedom44

bttt


6 posted on 04/08/2005 7:37:58 PM PDT by lainde
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To: CHARLITE; sheik yerbouty; landorepub; freedom44

No, it's not a ploy. Dr Jasser, who's articles I've posted a number of times here on FR, is the chairman.

Stephen Schwartz is the Executive Director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism in Washington, DC .

The founders of the Center for Islamic Pluralism are (affiliations for identification only):

Kemal Silay, CIP president: professor of Ottoman and modern Turkish culture at Indiana University.

Stephen Suleyman Schwartz, CIP executive director: author of The Two Faces of Islam (Doubleday), and associate of the Faculty of Islamic Studies, Sarajevo.

Nawab Agha: chairman, American Muslim Congress.

Zuhdi Jasser: chairman, American Islamic Forum for Democracy.

Ahmed Subhy Mansour: former professor, Al-Azhar University, Cairo, author of Penalty of Apostasy: A Study of Islamic Law.

Salim Mansur: professor of political science, University of Western Ontario, and columnist, Toronto Sun.

Khaleel Mohammed, assistant professor of religious studies at San Diego State University.

Tashbih Sayyed: publisher, Muslim World Today.


7 posted on 04/08/2005 7:47:00 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: CHARLITE

If Muslims want something that can be interepreted to promote civilized behavior instead of the barbarism, they're not going to find it in the Koran. Basically, these are people who really really want Islam to be compatible with modern civilization, and are willing to rewrite the whole thing if that's what it takes to get it. Personally I think they'd do fine with the Old Testament.


8 posted on 04/08/2005 7:49:35 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: nuconvert

So their credentials are supposed to make us feel all warm and fuzzy?


9 posted on 04/08/2005 7:49:52 PM PDT by landorepub
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To: landorepub

Don't know,watch what they do,not what they say.


10 posted on 04/08/2005 7:50:40 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: thoughtomator

You might be interested in this..........

http://www.sdjewishjournal.com/stories/aug04_4.html


11 posted on 04/08/2005 7:53:12 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: thoughtomator

Um, the Old Testament is as immoral and bloody as the Koran.

If they're going to look to a newer morality, they SHOULD take the path the Jews have taken with regard to interpreting the Torah and Old Testament, in general.


12 posted on 04/08/2005 7:55:53 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: landorepub

Yeah....their credentials, their articles, books, speeches and actions over the years.
That's about all there is.


13 posted on 04/08/2005 7:56:26 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: landorepub

In fairness, when judging any large number of human beings, you're going to get good and bad.

Do you REALLY think ALL Muslims are evil and brutal and intent on conquest? Seriously, have you even met a variety of Muslims or any other group from different backgrounds and nationalities?


14 posted on 04/08/2005 7:56:59 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: nuconvert

Very interesting! His logic is sound.


15 posted on 04/08/2005 7:59:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: Skywalk
Have you actually read the Koran? From a statement like that, I don't think you have. Here, an online copy in English.

Also, saying the OT is immoral is ridiculous on its face, considering that the civilization you live in is based on the laws of civilization therein. You may not even realize it but it's probably the basis of your own definition of morality.

16 posted on 04/08/2005 8:04:53 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: CHARLITE

It's either BS or they just think they're muslims.


17 posted on 04/08/2005 8:09:06 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: CHARLITE

re: redacting the koran and the hadith...

I'LL. BELIEVE. IT. WHEN. (IF). I. SEE. IT.


18 posted on 04/08/2005 8:23:05 PM PDT by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: AdmSmith

pong


19 posted on 04/08/2005 8:25:34 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: CHARLITE

This week's "Moderate Muslim" is next week's suicide bomber.

Sorry. I'm not going to trust anyone in that cult. Not in this lifetime. It's too late for that.


20 posted on 04/08/2005 8:35:53 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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