Southern Italy? Naa, doesn't count. Gotta be from Palermo.
Posted on 04/08/2005 11:23:33 AM PDT by AntiGuv
Sort of... I think thoughtomator's a special consultant to Hillary's '08 campaign...
I think 9 years is a long time for a non violent crime.
My suggestion is to call the Judge and thank him. I just did and they seemed real happy to get the call. The clerk was very nice on the phone and said they love to get feedback.
You can reach them at this number: 703/777-0270
Don't send them an email. Pick up the phone and call them with your support.
If you want to verify the contact, here is the link to their web site.
http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Loudoun/home.html
Clerk
Hon Gary M. Clemens
Hours
9:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Phone
703/777-0270
Judges: 703/777-0464
Fax: 703/777-0376
Fax-Judges: 703/777-0676
Address
P. O. Box 550
18 E. Market St.
Leesburg, VA 20178
Judges
Hon. James H. Chamblin~*
Hon. Thomas D. Horne~
Hon. Burke F. McCahill~
Hon. Jeffrey W. Parker
* Chief Judge
~ Presiding Judge
No, my formulation doesn't equate any form of solicitation with theft. Billboards don't take your time. Newspaper ads are part of the newspaper's product, so when you buy one, you are choosing to buy it with the ads. Likewise, TV ads are legitimate; if you don't want to see them, turn off your TV, not a moment of your time need be wasted.
In contrast, with email there is a server that must be maintained, at a cost to the recipient; with faxes, a fax machine; and with telephones, a telephone line. With none of those devices does the owner make an agreement to accept advertising as part of the cost of owning the device or receiving the service (this is in contrast to cable TV ads, for example).
I am specifically talking about the forms of advertising that have a direct cost to the recipient, where the recipient did not request a service that included advertising. If spammers paid a percentage of email server maintenance costs, or telemarketers subsidized phone service, or junk faxers paid for phone and ink, and the recipient chose to accept those services with embedded advertising, it would be different. But it's not - it's more akin to receiving a letter postage due, and finding out that it's a credit card offer with a 20% rate.
No, the violent crimes just don't get harsh enough sentences. Instead of moaning about this sentence being too harsh in relation to other crimes, spend your energy pushing for tougher sentences for violent crimes
Besides, who said it is not violent. I'm sure plenty of people have banged on the keyboard in frustration over all the junk email they get. OK, so that's only a little violence. But it multiplies by millions and millions of people. Adding it all up, it would equal mass murder. He got of light!
Well, I am a New Yorker... and I do trace my paternal line to southern Italy.
Making him sit through a reading of every email he sent out seems like an appropriate punishment. He'll only be 24000 years old or so by the time it's done.
Six months. You are rediculas. That is way too light. Who is that going to deter?
On the contrary; some of us are very aware of how anti-spam software works. Not all, however, use techniques that are based on address lists. Bayesian filtering is a very good alternative.
Dear conser13,
Ordinarily, I agree.
But I'm in the computer network business, and I see how much money my clients spend, directly and indirectly, on this problem.
This man, on his very own, has wreaked tens of millions of dollars of economic costs. Maybe more.
The overwhelming majority of e-mail that goes across the Internet now is spam. Much of it is actually legal bulk e-mail. But much of it violates these sorts of laws. Think about the bandwidth that is wasted. Think about the mail server processing power and space that is wasted. Think about the money that is wasted on filtering technologies. Think about the time wasted by individuals to sift through large numbers of spam each day. I typically get 500 - 700 spams a day.
I don't have a problem with a multi-year sentence for a fellow like this.
sitetest
Children see those porno emails, that's roughly equivalent to exposing oneself to children.
Very well said. I had it in my head it was a theft of time.
Nine years probably means 3 at the most. Non-violent crime, no drugs, no guns, no 'hate crime'. In some states he'd probably do a little over a year on a 9 year sentence.
Maybe hair wasn't his thing and he was more into penis products. LOL
It is kind of hard to stop spam when spamers use titles like the "information you requested", "how about this", "get back to me ASAP", and the rest of the non-descript subject lines they use.
"Don't suppose his new roomie will introduce him to a whole new kind of spam do you?"
I believe you're thinking of meat loaf. I shouldn't have said that.
Southern Italy? Naa, doesn't count. Gotta be from Palermo.
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