THE PING!Posted on 04/08/2005 7:23:59 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
Catholic League president William Donohue remarked as follows:
“The storm is about to hit. For the most part, anti-Catholic bigots and the disaffected dissidents within the Church have been quiet. What they have been waiting for is about to happen: the week between the end of the mourning and the beginning of the conclave is upon us. And that means the Left is ready to explode.
“Consider what we’ve heard already. Amidst the mostly favorable coverage by the media of Pope John Paul II, he has been branded as follows: an authoritarian who seeks to silence dissent; the enemy of homosexuals; a misogynist; a polarizing figure; a man who is out of touch with the modern world; a contributor to death due to AIDS in Africa; responsible for the sexual abuse scandal; and so on.
“And we’ve heard a CBS newsperson blast the pope for ruling the Church with ‘an iron fist’ (this was said between the final four basketball games on Saturday); the Jewish Forward said whatever good he did may be undermined by his ‘battles around the world for sexual repressiveness and against reproductive freedom’; the Calvary Evangelical Lutheran Church in Minneapolis posted a sign on its property saying, ‘ALL WELCOME, CHRIST IS ALIVE, THE POPE IS DEAD’; the president of the J. Paul Getty Trust commented on ‘the spectacle of grotesquerie and human ruin that has lately filled the balcony above St. Peter’s Square’; Christopher Hitchens said he was ‘part of the coverup and obstruction of justice’ attendant to the homosexual scandal; Sister Helen Prejean, who is soft on abortion, took him to task for not changing his mind soon enough on capital punishment (and in doing so managed to misrepresent his pronouncements on the subject—the pope never said it was an intrinsic evil like abortion); and a website called ‘HillaryNow,’ operated by Robert Kunst, said that when the pope went to Israel, he ordered an ambulance to follow him so that in the event he needed a transfusion, he would not have to access ‘Jewish blood.’
“But this is nothing. Many have been waiting for this moment for more than a quarter century. When they lose again, watch out.”
Its already started...some of it right here on Free Republic.
I doubt if many of them know that the mourning period is 9 days and thus doesn't end until Sunday night, so I would expect a barrage on the secular talking head programs on Sunday Morning while most of us are in Church.
Were you watching the "Saints and Sinners" series like I was on the History Channel?
"Pope John Paul II, he has been branded as follows: an authoritarian who seeks to silence dissent; the enemy of homosexuals; a misogynist; a polarizing figure; a man who is out of touch with the modern world"
I always knew he was my soul-mate for some reason. Maybe they mistook him for me!
You are reading the signs of the times wrong. What I used not to understand but now do is that every catholic is not required to agree with the Pope on every issue. Every word that comes out of his mouth is not infallible. It is his interpretation of scripture that is infallible.
The pedophile priests are, I believe, in for a nasty surprise. I'm hoping that as a symbolic act the new pope will publicly knot together a whip out of cords and flog these moneychangers out of the temple. Excommunication for all who have been involved in either the behavior or the cover-up. Perhaps an inquisition, though they have to find a nicer sounding name. To me this issue is the biggest threat to the RC church as it destroys credibility -- people reason "why should I listen to them when their own house isn't clean," and even worse "I would not leave my child in any situation with a catholic priest where there is a chance they might be alone." Or even "I just don't think it's a healthy environment for my child to be in."
SO, it's easy to see why the church is hemorrhaging members here in the US and elsewhere the buggerers are active. They must be scourged or the church will die.
Peter was weak, and a bit slow. I could not have a faith based on his faith. Still, if HE was not worthy, where does that leave me?
True, the mourning traditions for the Holy Father wouldn't be widely known in their circles, but to launch into tirades on the eve of and during the day of his funeral is hardly civil. But then, I guess I did have higher expectations. Yeah, I won't even turn on the TV, I'll just catch the 'high'lights here on FR. Sigh.
THE PING!"Every word that comes out of his mouth is not infallible. It is his interpretation of scripture that is infallible."
Actually, the conditions for an Extra-ordinary infallible declaration by the Pope are even more restrictive than that. He must:
A) Be pronouncing on an issue of faith and morals.
B) Be teaching in his capacity as St. Peter's successor (ex cathedra)
C) Be clear that his teaching is binding on all the faithful throughout the world.
Even then "infallible" only means protected from error - it does not mean that the proposition is stated in the best or most accurate way, or indeed that it incorporates the fullest expression of belief. It is a negative charism rather than a positive inspiration.
Apart from this he can make infallible statements which are part of the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium, i.e. articles of faith which have been believed always (Ordinary) and everywhere (Universal).
However, this latter point should surprise nobody as we can all make statements that are "infallible" in this way:
"Nobody can say 'Jesus Christ is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit."
Oh, no, we do have better music, TV, and cars than the old USSR had. That doesn't mean that they don't suck.
At any rate, it would be a shame if we fell into the inhuman spirit of those old Soviets.
Donohue is a total hypocrite who supports homosexual civil unions.
They even sniped during the past week with that "survey" showing such crap under “AP poll: New pope should push for
married and female priests," “…said greater steps are needed, in doing “more” in the sex abuse scandal.” “Catholics have considerable differences with Rome.”
“There are very few things that are absolutely unchangeable”.
Peter married? It does not say anything about being married. The bible does say "His mother in-law," He could have been a widower?
LOL!! That's exactly what Sir SuziQ says! He's expecting a major shake out.
“Socialism considers the individual person simply as an element, a molecule within the social organism, so that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual can be realized without reference to his free choice, to the unique and exclusive responsibility which he exercises in the face of good or evil. Man is thus reduced to a series of social relationships, and the concept of the person as the autonomous subject of moral decision disappears, the very subject whose decisions build the social order.”
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