Loch Ness Monster Finally Identified???

emediawire.com ^ | April 7th, 2005 | William McDonald

[MacDorcha]

Yer on too :)

[Twinkie]

So, then the deer was killed and partially eaten by a giant crab?

[Bald Eagle777]

Thank ya' laddie.

If you want ta' see the scarie' wee beest that swims n' crawls n' eats catt'l n' sheep, don't furget to book yer trav'll!

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library3/tourism/tfar-04.asp
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library3/tourism/tfar-04.asp
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library3/tourism/tfar-04.asp
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library3/tourism/tfar-04.asp

No tur'rism eyre! Nooh, Fer forty P, you can by a coffee!

[Swordmaker]

I suspect that the tooth didn't belong to the Loch Ness monster at all. Rather, I believe it to be sound evidence of a rare encounter with the mysterious "Mexican Biting Moose". They are more commonly found in Sweden (and none have been ever been actually seen in Mexico, but we know they're there...)

All the Mexican Biting Mooses in Sweden have been shipped off to extended vacations in Hawaii... seems the income from tourism to see them was disrupting the socialist economy.

[Swordmaker]

CharlizeTheronababeosaurus is better! Notice the teeth!

Teeth? What teeth? I was too fascinated by the interestng muscular development of the Theronababeosaurus thoracic area to notice teeth.

[Soliton]

deer die and things eat them. That is not a tooth. notice that it is blue at the bottom. I have seen similar pieces of crab claw on the beach in ite Outer Banks.

[Twinkie]

"deer die and things eat them"

Oh man. Tell me about it. My two dogs have been working on a deer carcas somewhere out in the woods around here for the past two weeks. Talk about putrid. We can't find it, but it is hidden in the woods and the buzzards evidently can't see it. The dogs are down to the bones now and dragged the whole antler and spinal column up here, then before that a whole leg which got so bad we finally had to throw it away. These dogs are resourceful and evidently have cast iron stomachs. I doubt they could have brought it down, so hope they don't catch leaping pallegra or worse from it. - Sorry weak tummies!

[Bald Eagle777]

Gross story, but that's nature.

Good depiction of the situation. Geeeze, even the birds missed the carcass. WOW. Musta' been under trees, etc.

Did you ever hear of the phrase from the 70s and 80s (or befor) "Dead deer in the woods" ...? Yep, this statement applies in this case.

I hope the dogs did not eat the maggots. (bet they did!)

Maggots, yum! Good source of protein for recon units.

"Gross ping"? "Maggot ping"?

[CryptoKid]

I see... the thousands of tourists who have reported sightings of the unknown in the lake are motivated by tourism right? That way they make more money....wait a minute their the ones spending money....who's on first?

Commercial pilots. Hundreds of them have seen and reported UFOs - even though they know it's taboo to do so and they would be considered wack jobs by their skeptical peers who knew about their reports. Yet that does explain the special check box on my last airline ticket that said I preferred to fly with a pilot who had seen a UFO so I could be sure and boost his "tourism bonus." Gimme a break.

What's worse is to suggest that the thousands of people who report such events that obviously have nothing to gain are nothing short of bald-faced liars motivated by money. Those type of sweeping generalizations are worse than the fake stories themselves.

[habeebtc]

I'm surprised nobody looked into the validity of Mr. McDonald as a private investigator/forensic artist. A quick google turns up:

http://www.alienufoart.com/

Mr. McDonald is much more than a private investigator or a forensic artist. He's someone who makes a living off of the publicity generated by things like this. Put it together with the lochnesstooth.com domain being privately registered so nobody can see whose name is on the account, and all of a sudden, pictures or not, it smells a lot more like a hoax.

[Lianachan]

Sorry if any/all of this has been said before, I've not read every post. I've been looking into this for a few days, and this is what I've said about it elsewhere:

I know Loch Ness extremely well. I've spent many nights camping by its shores, and many days on its surface on boats. A company I used to work for owns boats on the Loch, and I spent loads of time on those too. I'm not a monster hunter, I'm a local.

Looking at their first photograph, going by the position of the shadows they are looking in a generally southern direction (we're in the northern hemisphere, and the shadows come towards the camera). Since the loch bank is on the left, they must therefore be on the east side of the loch. The only places where there would be a bit of land sticking out into the loch like that, along that bank, are at Foyers Bay or in Loch Dochfour (in the bit of water that's to the north and is not really part of Loch Ness). Neither of them look like that, and neither of them would have a view with large mountains in the background - just miles and miles of loch stretching into the distance. In fact, no view down the loch would have mountains like that in the background - as you're looking down the biggest glen (valley) in the UK.

Given that :
- the people who "found" this "tooth" are American
- their "tooth" is most likely to be an antler from a young pronghorn antelope
- the pronghorn antelope is species of deer that's only found in the western USA, northern Mexico and south western Canada
- their photograph of the Loch almost certainly isn't Loch Ness
- their story contains many problems - notably "no bears in the area", the stuff with the water bailiffs and references to "the Highland Authorities"
- their expert is a screaming woo-woo of the worst kind (http://www.alienufoart.com/)

I suggest that not only is the whole thing a poor hoax, but also that they never actually were at Loch Ness in the first place. I think they probably found this deer, possibly the loser in a fight with another deer, on a fishing trip in south west Canada or north west USA and decided to pretend it's a tooth from the Loch Ness monster.

Sadly, only the first photograph shows enough of the area for a useful analysis to be done. I'm 90% sure that's not Loch Ness - meaning that the others aren't likely to be either. After all, if they really did visit Loch Ness, and the photos with the deer really were taken there, then why would they risk damaging their credibility by falsely claiming another photograph shows a view of the Loch? The quote I posted doesn't really go into what led me to believe it's an antler from a proghorn antelope - that's the result of discussing it with people who are extremely familiar with the species, including removing the antlers from freshly hunted animals.

[SunkenCiv]

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The horse-eel is in no way solely unique to Irish lakes. They've been record[ed] in brackish waters and on at least one account, observed entering a stream from the ocean. It should then come as little surprise that they have been recorded in Scottish waters as well. And yes, even in the most famous of Scotland's great dark lakes: Loch Ness... But while the popular long-necked monster may have become celebrities on an international scale, the presence of giant thick-bodied eels was long known to many locals. Mackal came to realize this after conversing with locals who expressed their acceptance or belief in what they called "hair" or "horse" eels.

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[Lee'sGhost]

Nessie was explained in post #94

[SunkenCiv]

Good luck with your search, and with your next toss of the caber.

[ElkGroveDan]

The tooth web page seemed pretty convincing until I clicked on the video. http://www.lochnesstooth.com

The whole thing is obviously staged -- with some really bad actors.

[U S Army EOD]

Its old enough for its teeth to fall out.

[xzins]

I think it's a tooth, I think there a monsters, I think they are under my bed, and I ain't comin' out!

[lizma]

I'm from Maryland and I think your right. I've noticed Marylanders tend to think the only crabs that exists are our blue crab.

There are three kinds of crabs in Scotland. Check out the left leg in this one. It's blue tipped just like the tooth.

It still would be fun to find out Nessies are real.

[lizma]

These dogs are resourceful and evidently have cast iron stomachs

Tell me about it. My dog once threw up a buckets worth of sticky black goo that smelled like very strong turpentine, but it turned out to be water soluble.

We watched her closely that day, ready to run her to the vets but she was fine. We're still clueless on what she may have chowed down on but I think it's a safe bet to think that it was something I wouldn't have eaten.