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Iran's Mullahs: Pope was too close to 'evil' Jews
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | By Aaron Klein

Posted on 04/07/2005 12:33:30 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

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To: F14 Pilot
A television series ran in Iran in January depicting "evil" Jews eagerly stoning crucified Christians during the decline of the Roman Empire. The series, translated by Palestinian Media Watch, shows "stereotypically evil-looking Jews wearing prayer shawls who notice Christian crucifixions and bribe a Roman officer to permit them to stone Christians," reported PMW.

I hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong. But I believe crucifying originated in Persia. I wonder if that was mentioned on this show.

21 posted on 04/07/2005 2:05:30 PM PDT by ValenB4 (God bless Pope John Paul II, a true man of peace.)
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To: mmercier

The Iranian people are not pigs or butchers. They are a great people being held back by a bad government. I suspect the people have had their fill of Islam and most of them probably aren't very observant Muslims. Supposedly Zoroastrianism is making a bit of a comeback. It's only a matter of time before that government changes. Maybe it will change peacefully as one political generation replaces another, or maybe it will be someday overthrown. Regardless, Iran is probably farther away from a nuke than we think. They are also not in violation of the NPT and the IAEA, so a war would be unjustified.


22 posted on 04/07/2005 2:12:59 PM PDT by ValenB4 (God bless Pope John Paul II, a true man of peace.)
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To: ValenB4
i apologize if i offended you. note that i said in the end we will likely "stand" them down, not "put" them down. i understand that most people are good, but those under the hand of the evil for so long, who have not risen to their own defense for so long, are unreliable as allies.

i have no confidence in another iranian revolution.

i have no confidence in american or british intelligence apparatus's ability to foment such an outcome.

i have only my bleak understanding of geopolitical interaction, and the patterns seem to indicate war, and only war as a means of resolution.

i love peace like anyone else; please try to recognize the historical reality that war is always required as a precursor to peace. in this case, it is going to come right down to the line, as stated above i have no faith in the iranian people or our political class... i pray i am wrong, believe that.

i feel like the skunk at the picnic.

mercier
23 posted on 04/07/2005 2:40:58 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: mmercier
Don't sweat it! You didn't offend me in the least!

There's nothing wrong with our intelligence whatsoever. Going into Iraq was a preordained thing, WMD or not. There's just so much information out there that it's hard for normal people to differentiate good news from propaganda. I highly recommend the writings of Jude Wanniski, Gordon Prather, and Juan Cole. Wanniski is a political-economist who is responsible for Ronald Reagan's supply-side thinking. Prather is a nuclear physicist who served in the Reagan administration. Cole is a lefty Middle East professor from Michigan, but very knowledgable. They all predicted well before the war that no WMD would be found. While I kept expecting them to be proven wrong, they were right. There's no good reason to go to war with Iran.

24 posted on 04/07/2005 3:08:10 PM PDT by ValenB4 (God bless Pope John Paul II, a true man of peace.)
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To: hunter112
missed that one... i'm onarant so please excuse my indulging.

it is unrealistic and genocidal to believe that we should (or possibly could) whipe islam from the face of the earth.

what needs to be established is a balance, and a level of respect between cultures. this scenario is not new, the romans dealt with this type situation for more generations than have lived since thomas jefferson (times ten). unfortunately for us, it was well documented, not just by the romans; the story is still being replayed in india, israel, turkey....... and everywhere cultures clash...

i wont drop the n bomb, because that destroys a notefile, but they did teach humanity that one lesson that remains prescient within us all. it ain't going to work that way as far as civilized nations go, not to say that it does not work that way in places on earth as we stand here now, just that it will not work that way by us... now or ever.

just ranting, so nice to have this time....

mercier
25 posted on 04/07/2005 3:23:29 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: F14 Pilot
"with many faulting Pope Pius XXII..."
Pius XXII? He might happen in the future, though. But it is just like those turdbans to start blaming him in advance.
26 posted on 04/07/2005 5:31:25 PM PDT by GSlob
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Good point about the balance, but I called for the abolition of militant Islam, the kind that cannot work and play well with others. If these ragheads would only just inflict their false religion on the believers, I could live with it. As I remind people frequently (somewhat less so since I moved from Washington State to Utah), it wasn't Presbyterian church ladies piloting planes into the World Trade Center.
27 posted on 04/09/2005 12:39:50 PM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory, both in the USA and the Middle East!)
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i have no problem with the extermination of militant islamists... those who prove themselves to be belligerents. they surely will be "exterminated" in the natural course of events, if they are bold enough to lash out, especially those who target the innocent. islamists are not the only people to whom this definition applies.

the trade center attack was brilliant from a military perspective. they had no access to weapons, minimal logistics, and little domestic support; yet they pulled off a mission that took more americans in any single day since antietam. before 911, no one on earth could visualize such a simple method to deliver and simultaneously ignite 55,000 gallons of high octane aviation fuel in manhattan.

terror is terror, and you get no arguments form me about killing those who employ this repugnant tactic. in any case, the "extermination" must (and will) be limited to proven belligerents. no one can exterminate ideas held within the minds of men, no matter how perverse; every repugnant idea that ever was manifest exists to this day in the collective conscience's somewhere, by some...

our enemies duty is to act out on their beliefs, and from my read of world history and geopolitical interaction, our enemies are, in the end, doomed.

our duty is to remain civilized and stand down such savegry... that is all that separates "us" from "them". i am rantingagain and must stop now...

nice to have this time...
28 posted on 04/09/2005 3:44:22 PM PDT by mmercier
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