Immigrants Enlisted for Trade Pact

Washington Post ^ | April 7, 2005 | Krissah Williams

[jpsb]

We are not a country any longer we are a market and the market is open for business. You don't even have to proof citizenship to vote here any longer. Just show up and vote, as often as you like. Nobody cares. This battle is over and the USA lost thanks to people like Bill Clinton and George Bush.

[Dog Gone]

Well since you're down to repeating your faulty assertions in an attempt to win the argument, I guess I'll just leave it to anyone reading the thread as to who got the better of it. I'm certainly not going to convince you.

[jpsb]

"History has proven that as markets open the rule of law develops"

Really, that's a new one one me, Europe opened lots of market from 1500-1800 and rule of law is not what the period brings to mind. there is nothing to suggest that opening markets has anyting at all to do with rule of law, and one could argue the exact opposite. It is respect for indivual rights that brings democratic reform not cheap crap at a local wally world.

[Mase]

Do you think that a business should take the risk for going into a foreign country to trade? Or do you think that the US taxpayer should be forced to pay what used to be an expense of doing business?
= = =

You seem to be fixated on this. I'll just refer to post #54 and #58.

Now, maybe you'll answer some of my questions in post #48?

[hedgetrimmer]

Well I guess you haven't read the CAFTA then have you. The federal government gave itself the directive for "trade capacity building". "Trade Capacity building is a method for wealth redistribution that originiated in the United Nations, filtered into their subsidiary agencies, the World Bank and the WTO, and now are finding their way into regional "free trade" agreements. Now, here IN THE CAFTA is the place the federal government gives itself trade capacity building authority. In my previous post, I showed you that the USTR translates "trade capacity building" into giveaways of US taxpayer funded government services and giveaways of goods, paid for by the US taxpayer.

Section H: Institutional Provisions
Article 3.30: Committee on Trade in Goods

The Parties hereby establish a Committee on Trade in Goods, comprising representatives
of each Party.
2. The Committee shall meet on the request of a Party or the Commission to consider any matter arising under this Chapter, Chapter Four (Rules of Origin and Origin Procedures), or
Chapter Five (Customs Administration and Trade Facilitation).

C. providing to the Committee on Trade Capacity Building advice and recommendations on technical assistance needs regarding matters relating to this Chapter, Chapter Four (Rules of Origin and Origin Procedures), or Chapter Five
(Customs Administration and Trade Facilitation).

Chapter Five
Customs Administration and Trade Facilitation

Article 5.12: Capacity Building
The Parties recognize the importance of trade capacity building activities in facilitating
the implementation of this Chapter. Accordingly, the initial capacity building priorities of the
working group on customs administration and trade facilitation under the Committee on Trade
Capacity Building should be related to implementation of this Chapter and any other priorities
that the Committee designates.

Chapter Six
Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures

6. The Committee shall provide a forum for:

(e) making recommendations on technical cooperation programs on sanitary and
phytosanitary matters to the Committee on Trade Capacity Building;

Chapter Seven
Technical Barriers to Trade

Article 7.8: Committee on Technical Barriers to Trade
1. The Parties hereby establish the Committee on Technical Barriers to Trade, comprising
representatives of each Party, as set out in Annex 7.8.

enhancing cooperation in the development and improvement of standards,
technical regulations, and conformity assessment procedures and, as appropriate,
designing and proposing mechanisms for technical assistance of the type
described in Article 11 of the TBT Agreement, in coordination with the
Committee on Trade Capacity Building, as appropriate;

Chapter Fifteen
Intellectual Property Rights

Recognizing the Parties’ commitment to trade capacity building as reflected in the
establishment of the Committee on Trade Capacity Building under Article 19.4 (Committee on
Trade Capacity Building) and the importance of trade capacity building activities, the Parties
shall cooperate through that Committee in the following initial capacity-building priority
activities, on mutually agreed terms and conditions, and subject to the availability of
appropriated funds:

Article 16.4: Institutional Arrangements
1. The Parties hereby establish a Labor Affairs Council, comprising cabinet-level or
equivalent representatives of the Parties, or their designees.
2. The Council shall meet within the first year after the date of entry into force of this
Agreement and thereafter as often as it considers necessary to oversee the implementation of and
review progress under this Chapter, including the activities of the Labor Cooperation and
Capacity Building Mechanism established under Article 16.5, and to pursue the labor objectives
of this Agreement. Unless the Parties otherwise agree, each meeting of the Council shall include
a session at which members of the Council have an opportunity to meet with the public to
discuss matters relating to the implementation of this Chapter.

You are arguing awfully hard for things that you don't appear to have studied.

[hedgetrimmer]

PREAMBLE The Government of the Republic of Costa Rica, the Government of the Dominican Republic, the Government of the Republic of El Salvador, the Government of the Republic of Guatemala, the Government of the Republic of Honduras, the Government of the Republic of Nicaragua, and the Government of the United States of America, resolved to:

RECOGNIZE the interest of the Central American Parties in strengthening and deepening their regional economic integration; and
CONTRIBUTE to hemispheric integration and provide an impetus toward establishing the Free Trade Area of the Americas;

Straight out of CAFTA.

[hedgetrimmer]

http://www.ustr.gov/assets/Trade_Agreements/Bilateral/CAFTA/CAFTA-DR_Final_Texts/asset_upload_file308_3917.pdf

[hedgetrimmer]

CAFTA-DR National Action Plans for Trade Capacity Building
As part of the U.S.-Central America Free Trade Agreement negotiations, National Action Plans have been designed for Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua to identify each country's trade capacity building needs. The action plans serve as a tool for mobilizing and managing trade capacity building assistance – both from public and private sources – to support participation in the negotiations, implementation of the negotiated agreements, and help make the transition and changes necessary to realize the linkage between trade and development.



National Action Plan for Costa Rica



National Action Plan for Costa Rica - en espanol



National Action Plan for El Salvador



National Action Plan for Guatemala



National Action Plan for Honduras



National Action Plan for Nicaragua



A Partnership to Build Capacity: Corporations and NGO Assistance



A Partnership to Build Capacity: International Organization Assistance



A Partnership to Build Capacity: Government Assistance

http://www.ustr.gov/Trade_Agreements/Bilateral/CAFTA-DR/Trade_Capacity_Building/Section_Index.html

[Dog Gone]

I have read it, and unlike you I understand what it says. NOTHING you quoted there backs up your assertions.

I give up. I don't want to talk to you anymore. You don't understand the english language. In your universe, the setting up of committees to discuss things = transfer of wealth from US taxpayers.

We're not even on the same planet. Goodbye.

[hedgetrimmer]

I showed you concrete examples of US government agency resources and taxpayer money going to these countries. I showed you the words in the CAFTA that the government uses as its authority to do this. When money is taken away from a private citizen and given to agencies and people of foreign countries, what do you call that? From each according to his ability to each according to his need? From the citizens of the "rich country" the USA to the agencies and public officials of the "poor country". That is transfer of wealth my friend and America is suffering because of it.

[Toddsterpatriot]

He needs White Castle.

[hedgetrimmer]

I sure look forward to your posts. They really are informative and factual.

[Dog Gone]

[Toddsterpatriot]

Don't bogart that joint hedge.

[Toddsterpatriot]

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[1rudeboy]

I hope you enjoyed your visit to Planet Hedgetrimmer.

[Mase]

Really, that's a new one one me

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Europe opened lots of market from 1500-1800

"Between 1500 and 1900, world per capita GDP increased from $140 to $680. Most people were miserable."

Doesn't look like they were very successful.

"Between 1900 and 2000, world per capita GDP rocketed from $680 to $6,500."

Globalization Facts and Consequences

"The economic futures of developing countries lie predominantly in their own hands through the policies that they choose to adopt and implement. Higher per capita GDP requires policies that are most likely to achieve that result: economic freedom and the rule of law."

"Evidence from the 2004 Index of Economic Freedom illustrates that free countries have a per capita income twice that of mostly free countries and that mostly free countries have a per capita income more than three times that of mostly unfree and repressed countries. Countries that maintain policies that promote economic freedom provide an environment that facilitates trade and encourages entrepreneurial activity, which in turn generates economic growth."

Heritage Foundation

1) Do we have greater trading opportunities in the world now than we did 100 years ago?

Absolutely

2) Is the world richer than it was 100 years ago?

Absolutely. $680 in per capita GDP in 1900 vs $6,500 in 2000.

3) Are there more democracies in the world today than 100 years ago?

"As Freedom House notes in its latest annual survey of freedom in the world, there was not a single country in 1900 that would qualify by today’s standards as a democracy."

"Yet by January 2000, Freedom House counted 120 democracies, the highest number and the greatest percentage (63) in the history of the world.

A Report Card on Democracy

Here endeth the lesson.

[Mase]

You have always maintained that the American farmer is in deep despair and in dire need of assistance.

The American Farm Bureau Federation estimates CAFTA could expand U.S. farm exports by $1.5 billion a year. These markets are currently inaccessible to many American food products.

You plead for the American farmer and claim that we are now a net importer of food but you won't support an agreement that will positively impact those issues.

You are consistently inconsistent. Or, maybe you join these threads just to bash Wal Mart.

[jpsb]

"Or, maybe you join these threads just to bash Wal Mart."

I do enjoy bashing walmart.

I think the american family farmer is pretty much gone. But I am not an expect in argra industry. My concern is more about jobs for our young people. keyboard screwing up, no can do long reply.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I guess some major collaboration is ensuing with the Bronze Lobby?