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Talking up a GOP 'hottie' for '08 race
Newsday ^ | April 7, 2005 | James Pinkerton

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:22:22 AM PDT by billorites

The surprise victory of a "dark horse" in an early presidential test is a reminder that the 2008 election is under way, already producing surprises. Yet, there's a logic to the latest surprise.

According to the March 28 issue of U.S. News , the current "hottie" among Republican presidential hopefuls the Iowa caucuses, after all, are just 33 months away is Haley Barbour, the governor of Mississippi. And that was before Barbour won the "March Madness" online playoffs.

Those playoffs, free to anyone with an e-mail account, were conducted by a Missouri-based research firm. A total of 64 names everyone from John McCain to Elizabeth Dole to Rush Limbaugh - were pitted against each other, as in the basketball tournament, until one winner, Barbour, emerged on April 4.

This result, of course, was unscientific. But since when is politics a science? In fact, PR stunts are a proven part of the presidential process. Jimmy Carter won a series of straw polls in Iowa in 1975, even as rival candidates scoffed at these "meaningless" pseudo-events. But a year later Carter was the Democratic nominee.

Some Barbourites are actively tooting Haley's horn. Ed Rogers, a White House aide to Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 and a past campaigner for Bush 43, was Barbour's law partner until Barbour was elected governor in 2003. In talking up the Mississippian's credentials, Rogers recalls that Barbour was the political director of the Reagan White House before going on to chair the Republican National Committee when the GOP took over Congress in 1994. As governor, Rogers continues, Barbour has enacted sweeping tort reform and held the line on taxes and spending. "A lot of Washington Republicans seem to have forgotten the importance of fiscal discipline," Rogers adds, signaling the "outsider" edge of a possible Barbour candidacy.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: 2008; barbour; barbour2008; barbourisafatcat; edrogers; msmcherrypicking; noconstitutionalist
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1 posted on 04/07/2005 5:22:22 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

So, a question to anyone who knows about Barbour: what's in his background that will be dragged out if/when he might run for president? There's probably already a boxful of stuff that's been collected by HRC et al...ready to hand over to the MSM...just in case.


2 posted on 04/07/2005 5:37:35 AM PDT by Maria S (Some church members who sing "Standing on the Promises" are just sitting on the premises.)
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To: billorites; MississippyMuddy; goldensky; gulfcoast6; MamaB; skaterboy; sgent; selucreh; RebelDS; ...

Missippy Gov. Ping


3 posted on 04/07/2005 5:39:33 AM PDT by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: billorites
Oh, this is not an Ann Coulter thread?....

sigh...

4 posted on 04/07/2005 5:41:02 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: billorites
We could certainly do a lot worse than Barbour, though I like Bill Ownes better from the gubernatorial quarter.
5 posted on 04/07/2005 5:43:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: Hatteras
Oh, this is not an Ann Coulter thread?....

No, but we can make it one!

After all, rules are rules...

6 posted on 04/07/2005 5:45:53 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: billorites

Send that man to a cosmetic dentist! STAT!

It may be right, or it may be wrong, but teeth like that will cost this man votes big time North of the Mason/Dixon Line. The knock on Barbour will that he is a hayseed Southerner, and those two front teeth will cement the impression.

With straight, capped teeth in front, he is a contender.

7 posted on 04/07/2005 5:51:44 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

Funny the article didn't mention TANCREDO who beat Rush Limbaugh and came close to winning this poll.

Stop your racist attacks on Southerners!


8 posted on 04/07/2005 6:09:59 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: WKB; onyx

Onyx is going to LOVE this thread.


9 posted on 04/07/2005 6:11:03 AM PDT by bourbon
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To: billorites; Mudboy Slim; iceskater; Gabz; Coop

With all due respect...Haley No!


10 posted on 04/07/2005 6:15:12 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (tagline temporarily unavailable)
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To: gridlock
The knock on Barbour will that he is looks and sounds like a hayseed Southerner.

First, he comes from a very well-respected family (e.g. his cousin is a federal judge). Secondly, he founded one of the most successful white-shoe lobbying firms in Washington, D.C. Lastly, he was an excellent chariman of the Republican NATIONAL Committee. Put that all together and you'll see that he is well-connected out the wazoo. I'd put his Rolodex up against anyone's in the nation.

The bottom line? Haley ain't no "hayseed" Southerner.

Of course, some folks don't know the difference, and they wrongly consider everyone who is a little heavy and has a thick accent to be doltish rube. What a mistake!

11 posted on 04/07/2005 6:26:22 AM PDT by bourbon
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To: billorites

Barbour is a good man and an outstanding strategist! Something we'll need with Rove gone.

All all the options, except for Ms Rice, I say he's about the best!!


12 posted on 04/07/2005 6:40:56 AM PDT by Dean Baker
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To: antisocial; bourbon

Hey, I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying what it is.

A Southerner has a built-in handicap when it comes to campaigning in the North. What is no problem Down South will become an object of ridicule Up North. Haley Barbour can be the most well spoken, well connected, well educated man since Thomas Jefferson, but those teeth will cost him five points in the polls anywhere more than 100 miles from a Stuckey's franchise.


13 posted on 04/07/2005 6:45:06 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

I guess Barbour won't be able to get very many votes in the NE, hmmm, sounds about like the current president......


14 posted on 04/07/2005 6:49:44 AM PDT by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: bourbon

I like Haley Barbour... a lot. Let's not forget that he was chairman of the RNC when the party went from the ash heap of the 1992 elections to controlling both houses of Congress two short years later. Gingrich gets the credit for engineering that triumph, but Haley was on the front line also


15 posted on 04/07/2005 6:57:41 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Brett66

Is it important for Barbour to display goofy teeth in the South? A little capping and bonding can go a long way toward making the rest of the country more likely to vote for him.

I ask as a stranger in your land, seeking knowledge: Does Barbour keep his teeth that way because they appeal to the voters in the South?


16 posted on 04/07/2005 7:00:20 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: bourbon; WKB

"Haley ain't no "hayseed" Southerner."


You are absolutely right!
He is very clever, and knows
exactly how to win elections.
I think he proved himself during
his tenure as RNC Chairman.

Our current, and prior, Presidents
have Southern accents.
One I love, and the other I'd
just as soon forget. ;o)


17 posted on 04/07/2005 7:22:13 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: gridlock

"I ask as a stranger in your land, seeking knowledge: Does Barbour keep his teeth that way because they appeal to the voters in the South?"



In any land, that would be considered tacky.


18 posted on 04/07/2005 7:49:09 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: billorites

Bad choice. The Republicans are going to need someone who is a genuine fresh face. Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina is the man.

Regards, Ivan


19 posted on 04/07/2005 7:50:27 AM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: billorites

Hes not gonna win so just stay in Miss and save us from Moore and Co


20 posted on 04/07/2005 8:37:41 AM PDT by skaterboy (My baby is an American badass)
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