'Curveball' Debacle Reignites CIA Feud
Source 'Curveball' Blamed in U.S. Intel Failure
"That came from us" - Der Spiegel
"I question the timing of this."
Guess we need a commission to study the commission.
Only inside the Beltway.
Who's Who on the 9/11 "Independent" Commission
"According to a 1998 Senate testimony of former CIA director James
Woolsey, powerful financier Khalid bin Mahfouz’ younger sister is
married to Osama bin Laden,. (US Senate, Senate Judiciary
Committee, Federal News Service, 3 Sept. 1998, See also Wayne
Madsen, Questionable Ties, In These Times,12 Nov. 2001 )
Bin Mahfouz is suspected to have funneled millions of dollars to the Al
Qaeda network.(See Tom Flocco, Scoop.co.nz 28 Aug. 2002)
Now, "by sheer coincidence", former New Jersey governor Thomas
Kean has business ties with bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi.
Thomas Kean is a director (and shareholder) of Amerada Hess
Corporation , which is involved in the Hess-Delta joint venture with
Delta Oil of Saudi Arabia (owned by the bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi
clans)...
Now you would think that being a business partner of the brother in
law and alleged financier of "Enemy No. 1" would also be considered a
bona fide "conflict of interest", particularly when your mandate --as
part of the 9/11 Commission's work-- is to investigate "Enemy No. 1".
"(Michel Chossudovsky, New Chairman of 9/11 Commission had
business ties with Osama's Brother in Law,
Centre for Research on Globalization, December 2002 )
Well everyone believed Iraq has WMD. [Well everyone except the inspectors on the ground]
AP needs to remind me, what was the "botched Iraq intelligence" again?
Even if "Curveball" fabricated every single thing that he ever said, it is well know that Iraq had chemical weapons (40,000 dead Kurds is proof of that). It is well known that Iraq was pursuing nuclear weapons. They had scientists, a special division in the top level of govt. devoted to nuclear weapons development, and a group of buildings that were found to be so radioactive that the first U.S. Marines that stormed the area could not enter because their Geiger counters pegged from 100 yards away and had to be entered by trained technicians wearing radiation suits.
The media claims that an Iraqi invasion was never adequately justified are completely outrageous. The war is a rousing success for humanitarian reasons alone. Funny how the liberals, who are all about "saving the children", are completely indifferent to Saddam's regime executing 40,000 Kurds with nerve gas and filling mass graves with 600,000 citizens and counting. Hell, the liberals and international human rights organizations were actively lobbying for Saddam to be able to continue his activities unabated and they're mad as hell that America stopped him!!
I also find interesting the level of justification that the liberals demand for an invasion of Iraq but Klinton bombed Bosnia for 73 days and nobody knows why.
Maybe all of the fact were previously contained in Sandy Berger's pants.
Dear Mr. Goss the details didnt come to light because instead of doing their jobs and co-operating with investigations too many folks in the CIA and FBI were busy covering their ass.
This is funny to me. I thought we found the mobile bio weapons labs? Of course there were no traces of any bio weapons in the labs which to me is the only place where we had faulty intel, the location of stockpiles(although if I remember correctly the trailers were found to have been recently cleaned with 'industrial strength' cleaner). And also the labs were said to have been used for hydrogen production....yeah I'm sure....a mobile lab in a trailer EXACTLY as our intel described used to make hydrogen(ummm for what?)....it makes perfect sense.
For anyone that desires to download the complete Acrobat Reader formated report...........go to:
http://www.wmd.gov/report
If you just want to examine a particular chapter on line (html) format all the chapters are hyperlinked. You can also find the chapters in html form at globalsecurity.org site.
Take the time to at least examine the front end, and perhaps Chapter One to understand what the report encompasses. If you read second hand info on what it contains as usual, you cannot be sure who is being honest verse subversive etc.. The issues revolve around the fact much of the various forms of WMD's simply where not found. We cannot get around this point. I for one had been a super supporter since day one that Saddam had tons of stuff based on what was leaking out over a period of time. Best estimates now indicate that after Desert Storm, Iraq did not reconstitute it's damaged WMD programs as believed. Hey just a week and a half ago, I made a comment on one thread, that why did our soldiers find vials of atrophine and hyperdermic needles at some previous weapons sites. All along I contended that eventually we would find hundreds of barrels of things like VX nerve agent precursors, Sarin, perhaps piles of packages of Ricin, tons of active, recent binary shells etc., etc.. But if you don't take the time to read the report, then you should not scream to high heaven how GWB, Collin etc., missed the mark. The report vindicates the administration of any wrong doing and or deceit. Clearly the burden falls on our Intel orgs.
"Other lawmakers are angrier. "As far as I am concerned, the CIA threw us a curve ball," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., also a member of the Intelligence Committee."
It should be obvious the so-called intelligence community which Bush inherited has big shortcomings.
It is not surprising things trickle out, over time. For Levin to suggest a conspiracy or coverup is not something he can prove. So it is usual dem political rhetoric and posturing.
More important than politics is getting to a better intelligence capability.
Ah, the age-old cry of the prevaricator. ;)