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To: RightWhale; Alamo-Girl; marron
...maybe it is time to write a book

But RightWhale, that book has already been written, and I suspect you've read it: The Federalist. What i don't understand is why you think the Framers would approve of the way our modern state is developing. They were interested in promulgating a system based on individual Liberty under a rule of equal justice under law. But that's the very system that the modern state is working overtime to overthrow. Why do you think that Madison, Hamilton, Jay, and the other Framers would approve of such a thing?

543 posted on 04/09/2005 6:31:49 PM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: betty boop

Some people astonish me with their "faith" in what they refer to as "laws of nature" (i.e., physics, chemistry) yet resist acknowledging "Natural Law" (i.e., moral absolutism). Moreover, they assume that they can verify or prove naural laws by themselves initiating experiments or demonstrations, but decline to accept that there was no identifiable entity that initiated the laws themselves.


544 posted on 04/09/2005 6:40:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: betty boop
Thank you for stating your concern in a way that allows for some response rather than in the ad hominem that prevails on this BBS.

I will tell you what Hamilton and Jay would be doing now. They would be looking around, seeing what they can of what is going on, and trying to figure out what is going on. They would not be claiming that their biweekly pieces are the last word.

Something is going on. Some real serious eggheads are conducting a worldwide revolution and here we sit mourning the impending loss of our great idea. It will take much more to counterbalance these eggheads than weeping, wailing, and hurling insults. One advantage, they haven't read much either. There is no textbook for what is happening. Be glib, point to this or that social, political, or economic text of a dead century ago. Be wrong just like them, or actually read the material.

549 posted on 04/09/2005 8:53:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: betty boop
a rule of equal justice under law

Excellent! Justice. What is that? All sides claim justice. Are they talking about the same thing, or do we need to dig deeper?

552 posted on 04/09/2005 8:59:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: betty boop
They were interested in promulgating a system based on individual Liberty under a rule of equal justice under law. But that's the very system that the modern state is working overtime to overthrow.

Sad, but very true. Thank you for your post!

556 posted on 04/09/2005 9:49:23 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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