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Chosen to play a key role in the final act. But who did it?


1 posted on 04/06/2005 5:26:46 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666
Chosen to play a key role in the final act. But who did it?

Cardinal Mustard, in the Vatican library, with a candlestick?

2 posted on 04/06/2005 5:29:10 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Truth666
That's in two weeks. The Cardinals are not in a hurry to select the Pope's successor.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 04/06/2005 5:29:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Truth666

Not naming a secretly appointed Cardinal... I can't imagine the reasoning behind this. Well, I guess if the new Pope is someone not known to be a Cardinal then we'll know who it was.


5 posted on 04/06/2005 5:36:49 AM PDT by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: Truth666

Has the UN demanded to have their observers present to certify the election?


9 posted on 04/06/2005 5:47:33 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Truth666; Salvation; NYer

I predict an elderly Italian will be elected. They realize they need a short buffer between any successor of JPII.

It's best to have an interval before you get to another real leader.

(and, of course....I could be wrong, too. :>)


19 posted on 04/06/2005 6:50:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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As faithful and pilgrims, in background, queue to pay homage to the late Pope John Paul II, Italian Cardinal Salvatore De Giorgi, Archbishop of Palermo, Sicily, walks in St. Peter's square at the Vatican, Wednesday, April 6, 2005, after attending a meeting of the College of Cardinals. De Giorgi is one of the 117 Cardinals who will cast ballots later this month for the next head of the one billion-strong Catholic church. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

VATICAN CITY - The College of Cardinals on Wednesday set April 18 as the date for the historic start of the conclave to elect a successor to Pope John Paul II, as the Vatican made final arrangements for the funeral expected to draw millions of pilgrims and world leaders to Rome.

The decision came after the cardinals read John Paul's spiritual testament during a pre-conclave meeting Wednesday, Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said, adding that the text would be released on Thursday.

Navarro-Valls said cardinals would celebrate a morning Mass on April 18, then be sequestered in the Sistine Chapel in the early afternoon to start the conclave. According to church law, prelates are expected to hold one ballot on the first day of a conclave.

The date was set on the third day of meetings of cardinals who have flocked to Rome for Friday's funeral and burial of John Paul. Navarro-Valls ruled out that the late pope's body might be brought to St. John Lateran basilica, across Rome, before it is buried, as was done for Pope Pius XII when he died in 1958.

The reading of John Paul's testament was unlikely to influence the choice of the 117 cardinals who will cast ballots for the next head of the 1 billion-strong church.

The documents also did not reveal the name of a cardinal John Paul said he named in 2003 but never publicly identified, ending speculation that a last-minute cardinal might join the conclave.

The name of the cardinal was held "in pectore," or "in the heart" — a formula that has been used when a pope wants to appoint a cardinal in a country where the church is oppressed.

Navarro-Valls also said that with huge crowds already converging on Rome, the Vatican could not meet the requests — "by Romans and non-Romans" — for a viewing at what is Rome's cathedral. Instead, John Paul will be buried immediately after the funeral in the grotto under St. Peter's Basilica.

In a major change to a centuries-old practice of electing a new pope, the Vatican has said it planned to ring bells in addition to sending up white smoke to announce that a new pope has been chosen.

Black smoke coming from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel signals no decision has been made after a papal ballot, while white smoke means a pope has been elected.

In the past, it has sometimes been hard to tell whether the smoke from the Vatican chimney was white or black. "This time we plan to ring the bells to make the election of the pope clearer," Archbishop Piero Marini said Tuesday.

In another change from past papal elections, cardinals voting in the conclave will have access to all of Vatican City during the election, as opposed to being sequestered in the Sistine Chapel, Marini said.

Mourners are streaming past John Paul's crimson-robed remains at the rate of 600,000 a day in an almost round-the-clock procession through St. Peter's Basilica, city authorities said. The crush of pilgrims on the road leading to the Vatican will rise sharply when an expected 2 million Poles arrive in Rome for Friday's funeral of the Polish-born pontiff.

Pilgrims stood in a line more than a mile long for 12 hours in chilly pre-dawn temperatures Wednesday for a brief glimpse of the pope's body.

Italy was calling in extra police to the capital and planned to seal off much of the Eternal City on Friday to protect a VIP contingent that will include dozens of heads of state from around the world. President Bush and the first lady, former President Clinton, former President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will represent the United States.

John Paul, who died Saturday at 84, made his wish known "to be buried in the ground," said Marini, a longtime aide as papal master of ceremonies.

Marini said John Paul would be buried with a white silk veil on his face, his body clad in liturgical vestments and the white miter. Keeping with tradition, his remains will be placed inside three coffins — wood, zinc and wood — a design meant to slow down the decomposition process.

A small bag of commemorative medals issued over the course of his 26-year pontificate, as well as a sealed document featuring a brief description in Latin of John Paul's life, will be buried with him, Marini said.

He said Polish wishes will go unfulfilled that soil from the pope's native country would be placed in the coffin.

In other developments, John Paul's personal physician was quoted as telling La Repubblica newspaper that John Paul "passed away slowly, with pain and suffering which he endured with great human dignity."

"The Holy Father could not utter a single word before passing away," Dr. Renato Buzzonetti was quoted as saying. "Just as happened in the last days he could not speak, he was forced to silence."

As the cardinals met, buses unloaded huge groups of students, pilgrims and clergy who joined the long line along the wide avenue leading to St. Peter's Square and through the streets of the neighborhood that surrounds the Vatican.

Philadelphia Cardinal Justin Rigali, who spent years working at the Vatican and was in St. Peter's Square for three other papal funerals, called the outpouring for John Paul the most dramatic he has witnessed.

"This is the fourth funeral for a pope that I personally participated in. I think this exceeds everything," he said. "This is the most extraordinary thing that ever happened."

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21 posted on 04/06/2005 6:52:16 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said the late Pope John Paul II did not release the name of the cardinal he secretly appointed.

Do we dare to hope? = )


27 posted on 04/06/2005 7:13:05 AM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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48 posted on 04/06/2005 9:25:30 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Papal InterregnumLots of information here!


 

The Vacancy of the Holy See
(Papal Interregnum)

The period between the death or resignation of a Pope and the election of his successor, when the See of Peter is vacant, is called the Interregnum. This Latin term means between the reign (of one Pope and another). It is a period governed by papal law, which admits of no changes to Church governance, or to the spiritual or material patrimony of  St. Peter, save the election of his successor.


 

 


50 posted on 04/06/2005 9:29:05 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said the late Pope John Paul II did not release the name of the cardinal he secretly appointed.

I have been so curious to know who this man is; but understand such knowledge may be dangerous to him if made public. I assume the "secret cardinal" is Chinese (PRC).

51 posted on 04/06/2005 9:32:18 AM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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ping


58 posted on 04/06/2005 9:43:13 AM PDT by nutmeg
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There's a lot of media coverage being given to this "secret Cardinal". As we speak, some Hollywood scriptwriter is penning a slasher film called "The Secret Cardinal", with Opus Dei as the supporting cast.


62 posted on 04/06/2005 9:50:13 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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