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To: T'wit
Good info. thanks. No doubt it is a problem and seems to be getting worse. Was Terri a victim? It's not likely we'll ever know even if she had lived. (Some of the weirdest stories I've ever heard were from friends who are cops or counselors.) That said there are just too many other circumstances that point elsewhere as to the cause of her admittance to the hosp. IMO Have the parents ever raised the issue of abuse outside of the medical treatment?
255 posted on 04/08/2005 2:17:26 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck
>> Was Terri a victim?

Anything else is a sucker bet.

>> It's not likely we'll ever know even if she had lived.

You never know what will come to light though some other channel. I have a hunch that Michael is not the only one who knows whether he is guilty of DV.

258 posted on 04/08/2005 3:56:35 PM PDT by T'wit (Anyone who gets in touch with his inner child will be spanked and sent to his room without dinner.)
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To: Smartaleck
There were affidavits given from FIVE nurses, I believe, FIVE, who spoke to michael's mistreatment and cruelty to Terri (all of them with Terri, after he got his money and was dumping her in a varity of nursing homes!)

Restraining orders were taken out by a group of THREE NURSES in one of the nursing homes, because michael was out of control, verbally abusive to them and threatening.)

One nurse, quoted above in one of the posts on this thread, stated in her affidavit that she suspected mike of a great deal of neglect.

And yes, abuse - if you consider her condition before and just after he left the room...his standard MO was to close the door and LOCK IT for a period of 20 minutes...

Note, smartaleck, the notes taken by the neurologist who took the video tape the world is so familiar with...he COMMENTED twice about michael and his disruptions during the exam IN HIS REPORT

Michael demanded to be present during this exam, and made SURE Terri knew he was there!

The neurologist noted in his report that when Michael would speak out...terri would un-focus, go off as it were, my words- > freeze from the inside out! Michael the monster was in the room observing the entire time....in the report you can read about michael starting a very loud FOOT TAPPING VERY LOUDLY and continued it for about FIVE MINUTES!

How he must have HATED Terri.

(hmmmm... I wonder, this special little foot tapping 'thingie' he did when he was with terri to announce his horrific presence and plans to hurt her, emotionally or even physically)

(ie. the found empty insulin vial and needle tracks under her breasts and between her thighs that one nurse put in her affidavit,

oh yeah...the nurse that FOUND THAT after he left, after rushing to bring terri down from her sweating, upset, flushing, thrashing and CRYING with a tab upon her mouth -forget name-used for insulin shock-this nurse had seen such reactions before to insulin shock, at that moment in time, she behaved as an angel. And...again, in response to why such suspected ABUSE was 'never REPORTED '....IT WAS, smartaleck!

She reported her findings and actions regarding schiavo to her supervisor, called the POLICE on her own, GAVE A POLICE REPORT that evening..and guess what?

WAS FIRED THE NEXT DAY!

And don't forget the nurse, who he lost his temper with, who had, OH HORROR OF HORRORS, put a rolled up washcloth within her palms, to lesson the crippling atrohpy of her fingers, oh yeah, mikey saw that and FLIPPED OUT...CALLING IT 'THERAPY" and threatened to have her FIRED! ( This is in her affidavit ( yes...this is also in an affidavit!)

And smartaleck...did you know that one of the nurses who spoke to the schindler's fo her concerns about the cruelty michael was doing consistently

Oh yes.

There are affidavits available to read concerning the suspected and heartbreaking abusive neglect and punishment that monster laid upon terri-something apparently EASY to do when you can COMMAND who sees her and WHO DOES NOT!

Pat Anderson, the Schindler's attorney for along time before Mr. Gibbs, PLEADED with the judge to hold a hearing about michael's sociopathic treatment of the 'bitch' as he, michael apparently called Terri to a nurse who spoke to this in her affidavit, but judge greer would not have any of it.........HE DENIED EVERY EFFORT TO INVESTIGATE MICHAEL.

Once, the DCF, under Mr. LaBelle, began and investigation, which was STOPPED by michael himself who REFUSED to allow the investigators ANY ACCESS TO TERRI (did you know that he did NOT ALLOW ANY MEN IN THE ROOM OTHER THAN THE SCHINDLERS, their priest and his doctor? Have you ever, in your wildest consideration of injustice, EVER heard of a suspected 'PERP' being able to control and stop an investigation ---and come to the REALIZATION that the JUDGE would do nothing about it!

WORSE...smartaleck....the SHERIFF of pinellas County was a contributor to judge greer's campaign, he was ALSO a personal friend of judge greer, and HE HIRED MICHAEL to WORK as a NURSE in his JAIL (that is where he works) WHERE...get this.....michael's future now dead mother in law worked (she died last year at michael and jodi's house) for Sheriff Rice for SIXTEEN YEARS!

Sheriff Rice is now a florida legislator....

Too funny to think of the phone calls I made a couple of years ago to this office requesting that he look into the complaints of abuse regarding michael....NO WONDER THAT EXPERIENCE LEFT ME SO COLD...AND NO WONDER THE SCHINDLER'S NEVER GOT REMEDY FROM THE POLICE.

Worse, smartaleck, and this is documented as well................Michael Schiavo was scheduled, via the courts, to atten NO ONE but THREE SEPARATE DEPOSITIONS where he was to answer questions about his guardianship practices.

Did you know that he DID NOT ONCE ATTEND ONE OF THESE DEPOSITIONS and that greer DID NOTHING TO ENFORCE THIS?

Oh yeah, fellow FReeper, the attempts, the DESPARATE ATTEMPTS the SCHINDLERS MADE TO BRING FORTH THE POSSIBILITY THAT MICHAEL SCHIAVO WAS AN ABUSER ABSOLUTELY BREAKS ONE'S HEART!. They never once received a review or justice...and often were punished by michael with a "no visits with terri" order when he was angry with them...once, during a 53 week punishment period, terri had FIVE TEETH PULLED. Yep. Five. Maybe they needed to come out, but understand, MICHAEL DID NOT ALLOW FOR HER TEETH TO BE BRUSHED AND HE DID NOT ALLOW ANY DENTAL CHECK-UPS.

He crushed the Schindlers with all of his might, using their helpless dtr as his wedge, because they INTERRUPTED his plans to get rid of Terri fast.

A normal loving husband does not put a DO NOT RESUSITATE ORDER on his wife's nursing home chart within DAYS of getting a windfall of money from a malpractice suit...money that was to be used to rehab Terri.

He was EVEN taken to court, when he REFUSED to allow for terri to be administered anti-biotics for an infection!

Not once, BUT TWICE.

If any of us has supported our son in law for three years and he strove to get money much needed to help our dtr., promising lifetime health care for her, etc, if any of us had taken our son in law into our home during this three year period after our dtr's collapse, believing he loved her, believing what he said to his attorney and in court, AND THEN DISCOVERED AFTER HE GOT THE MONEY THAT HE WANTED HER DEAD, GONE, OUT OF THE PICTURE, ......

My guess....we would have gone CRAZY!

God BLESS the Schindlers!!! (And I know he has....their blessed Pope had their daughter upon his lips just days before he passed!)

God is awesome.

And smartaleck..excuse my passion, I am a caps jerk....guess I have my own out of control issues, this saga of injustice simply outrages me! ( As if you were unable to surmise this...lol!)

260 posted on 04/08/2005 4:10:43 PM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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