VANITY NOTICE: I've just learned that I am an "EXTREMIST!" WOO HOO!! [This is NOT an OPUS]

FreeRepublic.com | April 5th, 2005 | Jim Robinson

[mercy]

I could and do live with it just fine except for all the grief you and yours provide. I would have done exactly as Gree did. I believe in the Golden Rule. Do onto others as you would have done unto you. I wouldn't leave poor Terri Schiavo strapped to that bed for another fifteen years. If someone did that to me I would consider it the worst form of evil.

[Cboldt]

Please show me a link where the Pope ordered his feeding tube removed.

Even if he did, removal of the feeding tube didn't cause his death.

[airborne]

If you are pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-constitution, pro-Liberty, pro-America and post to FreeRepublic.com, you risk being labeled as an "extremist."

That puts you in the company of extremist folks like George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Ben Franklin, & Jim Robinson."

Yep, that's me. But at least I'm in good company!

[mercy]

That's exactly what she was and I'll go even further. Unthinking undreaming husk. The all Terri all the time crowd has decided to live in a fairy tale world where someone with a liquified cerebral cortex can respond to therepy. I've even heard many here say she could have gotten better. This is a medical impossibility. The doctors knew this. The JudgeS new this. MS new this. The Schindlers decided to create a fairytale world and the media helped them with a highly edited few seconds of video tape that any decent neurosurgeon will tell you shows a woman who is indeed an unthinking husk.

[Lurker]

Careful Jim. Next thing you know you'll be slobbering into a CB microphone.

Keep on keeping on.

L

[Always Right]

This is NOT an OPUS

Sorry, I only have enough time to read Opuses (or is it Opi or Opies?).

[afnamvet]

I happily join you as being an extremist. I proudly wear the label of a vigilante also.

[Right Wing Professor]

I only have enough time to read Opuses (or is it Opi or Opies?).

It's 'Opera', I kid you not.

[Always Right]

It's 'Opera', I kid you not.

Yeah, I looked it up after I posted. Opuses is also correct, although Opera seems more appropriate. I could not find a definition that matched what we consider an opus to be.

[Just mythoughts]

"I could and do live with it just fine except for all the grief you and yours provide. I would have done exactly as Gree did. I believe in the Golden Rule. Do onto others as you would have done unto you. I wouldn't leave poor Terri Schiavo strapped to that bed for another fifteen years. If someone did that to me I would consider it the worst form of evil."


I thought as much. Now "IF" the time had come for Terri to return to the Heavenly Father HE knew where she was and yet He left her here for WHAT???? Seems to me Terri was a test case for the rest of us to see what path we would choose. Kinda like a roll taking!!!!!

[Van Jenerette]

The court ordered killing of an innocent helpless woman who could not speak for herself was a violation of her unalienable rights to life and liberty, and constitutional rights to due process and equality under the law, and was a travesty of justice. When violations of a person's basic constitutional rights have gone this far, and is so clearly wrong, with no effective help from any other branch of federal or state government, who other than the president could possibly stop it?

Thank you! This argument has found its way into my Political Science & Sociology classes. I don't mind pushing the 'truth' to my 300+ students about how Terri's 'active' (vrs. passive)court imposed death sentence was a direct violation of our fundamental rights. Then they all must read Article III of the Constitution to see who has the real constitutional power over the courts and for any holdouts I send them into Article V to tie it up.

The 'separate but equal' argument is a lie; the truth is 'separate and distinct' branches of government with the final constitutional trump card being held by the Congress/the People and the States.

take care,

Van

[Right Wing Professor]

According to Harhard Law Schools Society for Law, Life and Religion; the quote by Madison, that Jim put up is accurate.

I just got this from the president of the society

Dear (Right Wing Professor)

I have no idea what you are talking about. We fully upgraded and updated our website last night, about an hour before you sent us your email, so I don't know if you're referring to a quote that used to be on our website, but it's not there anymore.

What a coinkidink! Not revised for two years, and then revised right after it was quoted on FR!

This doesn't, of course, prove that the quote is bogus - it would be impossible to do that without searching every word Madison wrote in his entire life - but it does eliminate Harvard Law School as corroboration. I think it would be wiser to treat the quote as 'suspect' if not actually 'busted'

[msp2004]

CONGRATS JIM. Stay extreme!

[alnick]

Not mythology. I saw it with my own eyes on several videos. She responded.

[lugsoul]

Did you see all of the times that the same effort to draw a response was not successful? A stopped clock...

[lugsoul]

You are correct. It doesn't prove the quote is bogus.

However, there is no known source for the quote. People have looked for it. No one has found it.

It was recently used by David Barton, who got it from a secondary source from the 1930s. No one knows where they got it.

Just another reminder that you really can't believe something just because you read it on the web. An appropriate lesson for a Terri Schiavo related thread.

[EternalVigilance]

You know, something like "Terri Schiavo didn't have the benefit of a trial."

Uhmmm....haven't read the rest of this great thread yet to see how anyone responded to your comment.

But you do know that she never did have the benefit of a trial, right? Not in any Fifth Amendment sense at all. She was never even charged with a crime, nor did she ever have her own attorney.

But she was executed by the state in one of the most horrific ways imaginable anyway, in direct violation of the clear principles of the Fifth Amendment and Article One, Section Two of the Florida constitution.

[EternalVigilance]

Congrats on your latest badge of honor!

Don't know how your chest holds 'em all, truly.

Good luck with the march. Wish I could be there too, but I can't.

[EternalVigilance]

That's exactly what she was and I'll go even further. Unthinking undreaming husk. The all Terri all the time crowd has decided to live in a fairy tale world where someone with a liquified cerebral cortex can respond to therepy. I've even heard many here say she could have gotten better. This is a medical impossibility. The doctors knew this. The JudgeS new this. MS new this. The Schindlers decided to create a fairytale world and the media helped them with a highly edited few seconds of video tape that any decent neurosurgeon will tell you shows a woman who is indeed an unthinking husk.

I'll take her nurses' and her families' and my own eyes' testimony over yours, thanks.

IMO, you need a new screen name.

And you need to do a study on the word 'inalienable'.

[EternalVigilance]

I could and do live with it just fine except for all the grief you and yours provide. I would have done exactly as Gree did. I believe in the Golden Rule. Do onto others as you would have done unto you. I wouldn't leave poor Terri Schiavo strapped to that bed for another fifteen years. If someone did that to me I would consider it the worst form of evil.

You're engaging in the worst form of propaganda.

"Strapped to that bed"?

She sat up in a chair and interacted with the ones who loved her.

But even if she didn't, you still wouldn't have the right to kill her or anyone by starvation.

The right to live is inalienable and God-given. No government has the right to kill its citizens except on conviction of a capital crime. What was Terri's crime, pray tell? Not living up to you and Michael Schiavo's and George Felos' and George Greer's standards of 'quality of life'? Hah!!