[Right Wing Professor]

According to Harhard Law Schools Society for Law, Life and Religion; the quote by Madison, that Jim put up is accurate.

I just got this from the president of the society

Dear (Right Wing Professor)

I have no idea what you are talking about. We fully upgraded and updated our website last night, about an hour before you sent us your email, so I don't know if you're referring to a quote that used to be on our website, but it's not there anymore.

What a coinkidink! Not revised for two years, and then revised right after it was quoted on FR!

This doesn't, of course, prove that the quote is bogus - it would be impossible to do that without searching every word Madison wrote in his entire life - but it does eliminate Harvard Law School as corroboration. I think it would be wiser to treat the quote as 'suspect' if not actually 'busted'

[lugsoul]

You are correct. It doesn't prove the quote is bogus.

However, there is no known source for the quote. People have looked for it. No one has found it.

It was recently used by David Barton, who got it from a secondary source from the 1930s. No one knows where they got it.

Just another reminder that you really can't believe something just because you read it on the web. An appropriate lesson for a Terri Schiavo related thread.

[MrDem]

Ok, you've carried on and on and on about the Madison quote.

What about the other quotes?

If a 3 out of 5 vote of radiologists was good enough to kill Terri, 4 out of 5 founder's quotes not being bogus should more than suffice for proving the point of what they were saying.

[DaveTesla]

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/sllr/quotes.html

We've staked the whole future of American civilization not on the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us . . . to Govern ourselves according to the commandments of God. The future and success of America is not in this Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which this Constitution is founded.
-- James Madison

[FBD]

>"This doesn't, of course, prove that the quote is bogus - it would be impossible to do that without searching every word Madison wrote in his entire life - but it does eliminate Harvard Law School as corroboration. I think it would be wiser to treat the quote as 'suspect' if not actually 'busted'"<


Thanks for the update, Professor. That's the double edged sword of the Internet, I guess. Easy to find information, and twice as easy to spread misinformation.

Here's a quote; attributed to Hitler:
"For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead in the future!" – Adolf Hitler...( he didn't say it)
-But you will see that 'misquote everywhere on the Internet...


'They Never Said It':
"A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Mis-Leading Attributions" - by Paul F. Boller

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195055411/ref=sib_rdr_dp/002-4142444-2456833?%5Fencoding=UTF8&no=283155&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&st=books


Regards